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    Default BibleWorks and Textual Criticism

    BibleWorks 9 more than any other version or any other Bible software program has put the issue of textual criticism on the main stage of Biblical study.

    I'm wondering what people's thoughts on that decision is. (Personally I think it's a very good and exciting step, but I'll hopefully add more of my thoughts later)

    To start things off, I've written a post on the BibleWorks blog about it.

    [Also I have to say now that blog posts are going to be much more infrequent than I thought (or wanted). I'm involved in another project that requires more of my concentration. Sorry about that.]
    Last edited by Michael Hanel; 07-11-2011 at 04:23 PM. Reason: double negative
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Hanel View Post
    BibleWorks 9 more than any other version or any other Bible software program has put the issue of textual criticism on the main stage of Biblical study.

    I'm wondering what people's thoughts on that decision is. (Personally I think it's a very good and exciting step, but I'll hopefully add more of my thoughts later)

    To start things off, I've written a post on the BibleWorks blog about it.
    We are very interested in the answer(s) to this question. The work that we have done so far represents a huge investment of time, money and resources. The extent to which we continue the work really depends on the response that we get. My personal belief is that this is an area that has received far too little emphasis. It may be that people are taught in seminary that the controversy over which text most accurately represents the original is over so we don't need to worry about it. But to my mind that is far from the case. I think the popularity of the Robinson-Pierpont text is growing and lots of pastors are asking (and being asked) serious questions about how we deal with those pesky footnotes that say such and such a text is missing from early manuscripts. Books from men like Bart Ehrman are also doing (in my opinion) a great deal of damage, and the damage extends to people in the pews who know nothing about textual criticism. So I think these tools are important. Let us know what you think, either here or on the BibleWorks web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBushell View Post
    Let us know what you think, either here or on the BibleWorks web site.

    Mike Bushell
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    Mike,

    Beyond all the information at ones fingertips, beyond the ability to show a snapshot of manuscript to someone who doesn't read a word of Greek but asks a question about, say, the ending of Mark, beyond all the study opportunities and possibilities, your commitment to making these types of resources available speaks volumes to what this program is about, fundamentally.

    Focus on the text.

    That's why I use BibleWorks daily, and wouldn't be without it.

    I'll use the CNTTS apparatus, and I look forward to similar OT resources someday in BibleWorks (realizing the differences between OT and NT textual criticism, realizing how huge a project that would be ...).

    Dan Witte

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    I have been using BW since 3.5 and have always found the focus to be somewhat specialized and unique. The work done in bringing BW 9 is really amazing, the price is incredible and the innovation in the text critical resources and tools is refreshing.

    My only problem is that with this upgrade the program has outgrown my skills and study methods. Being a lay person, I can get what I need regarding textual differences from other sources. While seeing images of the actual documents is cool, my skills do not enable me to benefit from them. The most appealing upgrade for me is the ESV Study Bible that I already own i another software package.

    With that said, I do not think the focus of BW should change. The company has a core customer base that can and will use these tools that come with this upgrade, and that need should be met.

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    As a pastor, I have to admit that I do not always have time (or feel I have time) to look into the critical apparatus and see the variants. Just watching the videos of this most recent addition to BW with the Manuscript project in particular will help me immensly right off the bat. I know it is incomplete with only 7 manuscripts, but there is also the CNTTS that again seeing the videos, looks very helpful. Tischendorf was nice in the version I use now, but I do not, at the present moment, read German making some of the help features of the text useless to me. I am very excited about getting BW9 and being able to do some of this work much faster, much easier, and with the Manuscript project being able to see it laid out in some of the actual manuscripts.
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    This will speed up my research since there will now be an additional window for all the critical tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasquale View Post
    Textual criticism in BibleWorks 9 is a great add-on.

    I was one of the first makers of Textual variants/criticism modules and versions for BibleWorks.

    I converted Wieland Wilker'sA Textual Commentary” for BibleWorks use and some manuscripts Vaticanus, Beza,Alexandrinus in HighRes images, Old-Latin versions from manuscripts (Vercellensis, Veronensis and Bobbiensis), a module from Laparola.net apparatus, Von Soden apparatus (HighRes images) and other modules not shared:The Encyclopedia of New Testament Textual Criticism by Rich Elliott and Pericope de adultera by Nazaroo and Mr. Scrivener, Vaticanus Old-Testament (HiRes images) and others....

    I am glad that BW9 gives space to textual criticism as a long term project.
    I just wanted to say thank you Pasquale because I do use them.

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    It is very exciting to expect to view more critical apparatuses on BW9. It is also very exciting to expect to use ancient manuscripts easily. Thus far, it was very difficult to locate the desired verses with Codices Sinaiticus and Vaticanus that were made available from “User-created databases.”

    I personally think it is a very sound and good BW design to try to bring us closer to the Biblical sources.

    I appreciate your efforts very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Hanel View Post
    BibleWorks 9 more than any other version or any other Bible software program has put the issue of textual criticism on the main stage of Biblical study.

    I'm wondering what people's thoughts on that decision is. (Personally I think it's a very good and exciting step, but I'll hopefully add more of my thoughts later)

    To start things off, I've written a post on the BibleWorks blog about it.
    I've already hinted to my family what I want for Christmas (or my birthday)....if they somehow don't find a way to get BW9 upgrade...I will have to take matters into my own hands....
    If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things ? John 3:12 KJV
    εκεινον δει αυξανειν εμε δε ελαττουσθαι John 3:30

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaur View Post
    I've already hinted to my family what I want for Christmas (or my birthday)....if they somehow don't find a way to get BW9 upgrade...I will have to take matters into my own hands....
    ok....I couldn't wait - it's gonna be Christmas in July- I ordered it today !
    If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things ? John 3:12 KJV
    εκεινον δει αυξανειν εμε δε ελαττουσθαι John 3:30

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