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    I would be very grateful if you could, please, sent me some references to scholarly papers that use BW to solve problems in biblical research.

    Thanks & regards.
    Noel Fitzpatrick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Fitzpatrick View Post
    I would be very grateful if you could, please, sent me some references to scholarly papers that use BW to solve problems in biblical research.

    Thanks & regards.
    I'm not sure what you exactly mean by "solve problems", but I used Bible Works constantly in the preperation of my PhD thesis: searching, analyising, just about everything. It was invaluable. It enabled me to observe many things that would have been overlooked otherwise, and helped me to discover numerous important points that greatly assisted my analysis.

    It has now been printed:

    James T Sparks The Chronicler's Genealogies: Towards an Understanding of 1 Chronicles 1-9 (Atlanta: SBL; 2008)

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    Thanks for your reply, James. Congratulations on your studies. What I had in mind are references to articles in research/scholarly journals, as our library subscribes to electronic versions of a large range of journals, even though the book collection is not very extensive.

    By "solve problems" I mean using BW to answer questions of interest to those involved in Bible study.

    At present I am comparing the Pastoral Epistles with other writings to see if the topics/words considered could throw light on the date of the PEs.
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    I would imagine that the majority of scholars utilize Bible software these days, and I would imagine that the majority of biblical studies articles have some type of search they used Bible software with. However, whenever I have seen statistics cited in a scholarly work that were undoubtedly performed in Bible software, they never cite a source or anything. Because of this, I have never seen Bibleworks or any other software cited in an article or book when giving search criteria or statistical information.

    Michael Burer references Bibleworks in his latest "A New Reader's Lexicon of the NT," saying that for all of the statistical information contained therein he used Bibleworks for. That's about the only thing I know of, other than Bibleworks reviews in journals and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soxfan23 View Post
    I would imagine that the majority of scholars utilize Bible software these days, and I would imagine that the majority of biblical studies articles have some type of search they used Bible software with. However, whenever I have seen statistics cited in a scholarly work that were undoubtedly performed in Bible software, they never cite a source or anything. Because of this, I have never seen Bibleworks or any other software cited in an article or book when giving search criteria or statistical information.

    Michael Burer references Bibleworks in his latest "A New Reader's Lexicon of the NT," saying that for all of the statistical information contained therein he used Bibleworks for. That's about the only thing I know of, other than Bibleworks reviews in journals and such.
    Also see Philip Brown and others who did the reader edition of the Hebrew Bible for Zondervan. I assume most scholars today use Bible software in some form, but I don't consider it necessary for them to cite that unless it really has something unique to do with their argument, like a certain database only available in a Bible program with information that is otherwise not standard knowledge.
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    Noel,

    You might find some help right in the BW forums -- where various folks ask questions about doing research using BW and others offer answers.

    Also, there is a e-newsletter you can sign up for that sends tips for profs and others on how to use BW in the classroom (but these tips can be very helpful for any researcher).

    Go to https://www.bibleworks.com/classroom/ to see the long list of tips already posted. Then sign up for the tips and you will get them emailed to you as we post them.

    Jim B

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    Thanks to all.

    As a retired scientist I am surprised that references to BW are not made in the literature. In science the specialist equipment used is noted. I also think that not giving BW references is a pity. How else can one be sure one is duplicating reported studies? In science reproducible results are important.

    Again it may be due to the different outlooks of physical scientists and those trained in the humanities.

    However I still would like to see some reputable published studies that acknowledge BW.

    Would BW itself like to request scholars to acknowledge it?
    Noel Fitzpatrick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Fitzpatrick View Post
    As a retired scientist I am surprised that references to BW are not made in the literature.... Again it may be due to the different outlooks of physical scientists and those trained in the humanities.... Would BW itself like to request scholars to acknowledge it?
    You answered your own question when noting the difference between the hard sciences and the humanities. There's no convention for citing the "format" in which you checked the primary sources. Indeed, the main citation complaint you hear for texts available in Bible works as that scholars tend to want to be able to cite the page number of works included that are published in print. No one expects that readers should have to purchase Bible Works or any other software package to check the citations and their context.

    As for work that involved extensive data mining, authors will occasionally cite their software if the results would not have been readily available by other means. But as for checking how many times the niphal of a lexeme occurs, or how many times a particular grammatical construction occurs, that's not likely to be cited.

    Dale A. Brueggemann

    כִּי עֶזְרָא הֵכִין לְבָבוֹ לִדְרוֹשׁ אֶת־תּוֹרַת יְהוָה וְלַעֲשֹׂת וּלְלַמֵּד בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל חֹק וּמִשְׁפָּט (Ezra 7:10)


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    Many thanks for your reply, Dale.

    Scientists want to see reproducible results. Unless they can, in general, reproduce the work reported they are not convinced, hence the necessity to give the method used and the major equipment (experimental details).

    Thus, scientists are a skeptical lot, like Thomas:

    So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands, and put my finger in the mark of the nails and my hand in his side, I will not believe.” The Holy Bible : New Revised Standard Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1989), Jn 20:25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Fitzpatrick View Post
    Many thanks for your reply, Dale.

    Scientists want to see reproducible results. Unless they can, in general, reproduce the work reported they are not convinced, hence the necessity to give the method used and the major equipment (experimental details).

    Thus, scientists are a skeptical lot, like Thomas:

    So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands, and put my finger in the mark of the nails and my hand in his side, I will not believe.” The Holy Bible : New Revised Standard Version (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1989), Jn 20:25.
    Noel, the one thing that you've got to keep in mind is that Bible Study software is just a means and a tool toward an end. People can actually study every usage of (for example) the Hebrew verb ra'ah in the niphal stem using a good concordance such as Even-Shoshan. That's how they actually use to do it before the advent of computers and computer-aided research tools, amazingly enough! We might not believe it but they did! What's really amazing is to look at the incredible competence and thoroughness the Masoretes had with the Hebrew Scriptures. Most people don't bother to look at the incredible observations noted in the Masorah Parva. The Masoretes could actually tell you all the other places in the Hebrew Bible where a certain grammatical construction could be found. And this, long before computers were ever invented.

    My point is that bible research could be accomplished in a variety of different ways, bible software being one of them. So, when you get down to it, I don't think it's vitally crucial to specify which brand of software you used in your research. This one might use BibleWorks. That one might use Logos. Another might use Wordsearch. When you get down to it, it doesn't really matter.

    And there is one more thing that I would add, and I think this is significant. Any bible software will only be as good as its databases are coded correctly. The truth is, there are errors in some of the best morphological databases out there. I have seen, believe it or not, words coded incorrectly in the Westminster Morphology. So, even with a great software platform like BW - and I love BibleWorks - there's no guarantee that you're going to wind up with 100% precision all the time.

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