What would you like to see in BibleWorks 10?

If, my memory services me correctly it was on June 28th, 2011 that I ordered my copy of BibleWorks9. Meaning, that current version of BibleWorks is about a year a half old. That's not too old I guess? So by now most of BibleWorks' user base has had time to update to version 9 and play around with it. So, after using and getting to know BibleWorks9 I pose the following:

1. What would you like to see in version 10 of BibleWorks?
2. Is, there anything that you would like BibleWorks to retain?
3. Is, there anything that you would like BibleWorks to get rid of?
4. Is, there anything that you would like BibleWorks to add or change?

Two things:
- BWs dealbreaker to me is the Summary Tab. That's where I start all my exegesis. So: I would like BW to add more tagged modules. As many grammars and dictionaries as possible. It is already quite good - but one resource that would be really really helpful is the Baylor series on the Greek text. As far as I can see, the Resource Tab is unmatched by Accordance and Logos - and if BW keeps adding resources with "Focus on the Text" rather than just books in East and West, they will keep a lead here!
- They should work on the text-collections. It is next to impossible at the moment to get students to find a text. Where is "Songs of Solomon" hidden? Which books should I open to have all my translations of it and so on. As flexible as it is to group texts in languages, it is also a mess from a plain user-perspective where a grouping into text-category would be much more helpful.

So:
- keep the "Focus on the Text".
- get some user-feedback from newbies and instructors to flatten the steep learning curve demanded for new users.

Morten

Forgot one thing: I know it has been discussed countless times, but it is a problem for BW not having an iOS/Android-version. Just something small and downscaled. Something that would enable you to have a couple of bible-versions and the Hebrew and Greek texts on you all the time.

At least: This is a deal-breaker to many of my students and I had a hard time convincing them to buy BW and not Accordance for this reason alone.

The windows-tab-solution is not helping a lot here. Android and Apple are selling much much more than windows-tabs.

This is not to start another round on this issue. I am just afraid that sales are hurting for this reason.

Morten

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Originally Posted by bkMitchell

If, my memory services me correctly it was on June 28th, 2011 that I ordered my copy of BibleWorks9. Meaning, that current version of BibleWorks is about a year a half old. That's not too old I guess? So by now most of BibleWorks' user base has had time to update to version 9 and play around with it. So, after using and getting to know BibleWorks9 I pose the following:

1. What would you like to see in version 10 of BibleWorks?
2. Is, there anything that you would like BibleWorks to retain?
3. Is, there anything that you would like BibleWorks to get rid of?
4. Is, there anything that you would like BibleWorks to add or change?

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Great question. For #2 and 3, Just about everything is worth retaining. The only thing for which I've never really seen the usefulness in BW9 is the "version" pane, which gives you information you can get anyway by hovering the mouse over the version name in the Browse window.

In terms of helpful additions, I would love to see the following:

Visuals

It would be nice to have the possibility of setting single versions in the Browse Window in such a way that breaks are made according to paragraphs and not verses (you can actually do this in multiple version mode if you set it up for several verses, but it's far from ideal for at least a couple reasons). Without this, BW isn't really a great program for simply reading files.

Ressources

Greek

I would love to see some more morphologically tagged versions of non-Biblical Koine and Classical Greek texts, e.g., Epictetus, Plato, etc. Text-only versions for several of these can already be found in the User built ressources, and are easy enough to integrate. But it would be nice to have the morphology versions for the links to vocabulary and use with the search engine ("cross version search mode").

It would be very helpful to have a critical apparatus with the LXX, especially as there are sometimes whole passages that are missing in Rahlfs (e.g., a whole section of the David and Goliath passage). If it could be searched along with BGT and BGM that would be wonderful.

Any chance of getting some tagged facsimiles of some of the more important papyri, along with their transcriptions, like p46, p72, p75, etc.?

English

The Fairly recently translated English version of the LXX/Old Greek (NETS) is freely available online. Any chance of having that added?

Hebrew

In the non-vocalized Hebrew texts (Dead Sea Scrolls principally, but also the Samaritan Pentateuch in the user-built module), the שׁ (= v) and the שׂ (= f) are represented by a third letter (ש = X). This means that these texts will be eliminated from same language searches, and also come up as variants when using the Text Comparison Settings. It would be nice to harmonize all this!

Also, this may be asking for the moon, but in same language searches, I believe that the mater lectionis readings (in Qumran for example) do not show up in string searches when there are differences on that level with WTT. It would be nice to have a greater coherence between these modules (I believe it's possible to get around this by using WTM as base version, though, if I remember correctly some previous searches).

How about morphologically tagged Hebrew text of some of the important talmudic ressources?

I would love to see some improvement in the lexicons for the Targums, as well as vocalized texts for more of these than are currently available (i.e., only one for the moment).

Any chance of getting some tagged manuscript facsimiles for some of the Dead Sea Scrolls (either Biblical texts or sectarian works)?

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How's that for starters? IMO, these things would make a future version of BW even more powerful than it is. As an aside, I've been using BW since version 3, going back to 1997, and I've always been impressed to see how BW has evolved and kept in step with my growing needs as pastor, pastor trainer, then Seminary professor. Keep up the good work!

Donald Cobb
Aix-en-Provence, France

Great question ! I'd like to see the morphological tagged OT Peschitta (available in the internet already) and an update of the CNTTS apparatus, with more features and more manuscripts. This apparatus was the key element why I updated on BW 9 and I haven't regred it.
When do you think BW 10 will be released ?
Yours in Christ !
Peter, Germany

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Originally Posted by Donald Cobb

Great question. For #2 and 3, Just about everything is worth retaining. The only thing for which I've never really seen the usefulness in BW9 is the "version" pane, which gives you information you can get anyway by hovering the mouse over the version name in the Browse window.

In terms of helpful additions, I would love to see the following:

Visuals

It would be nice to have the possibility of setting single versions in the Browse Window in such a way that breaks are made according to paragraphs and not verses (you can actually do this in multiple version mode if you set it up for several verses, but it's far from ideal for at least a couple reasons). Without this, BW isn't really a great program for simply reading files.

Ressources

Greek

I would love to see some more morphologically tagged versions of non-Biblical Koine and Classical Greek texts, e.g., Epictetus, Plato, etc. Text-only versions for several of these can already be found in the User built ressources, and are easy enough to integrate. But it would be nice to have the morphology versions for the links to vocabulary and use with the search engine ("cross version search mode").

It would be very helpful to have a critical apparatus with the LXX, especially as there are sometimes whole passages that are missing in Rahlfs (e.g., a whole section of the David and Goliath passage). If it could be searched along with BGT and BGM that would be wonderful.

Any chance of getting some tagged facsimiles of some of the more important papyri, along with their transcriptions, like p46, p72, p75, etc.?

English

The Fairly recently translated English version of the LXX/Old Greek (NETS) is freely available online. Any chance of having that added?

Hebrew

In the non-vocalized Hebrew texts (Dead Sea Scrolls principally, but also the Samaritan Pentateuch in the user-built module), the שׁ (= v) and the שׂ (= f) are represented by a third letter (ש = X). This means that these texts will be eliminated from same language searches, and also come up as variants when using the Text Comparison Settings. It would be nice to harmonize all this!

Also, this may be asking for the moon, but in same language searches, I believe that the mater lectionis readings (in Qumran for example) do not show up in string searches when there are differences on that level with WTT. It would be nice to have a greater coherence between these modules (I believe it's possible to get around this by using WTM as base version, though, if I remember correctly some previous searches).

How about morphologically tagged Hebrew text of some of the important talmudic ressources?

I would love to see some improvement in the lexicons for the Targums, as well as vocalized texts for more of these than are currently available (i.e., only one for the moment).

Any chance of getting some tagged manuscript facsimiles for some of the Dead Sea Scrolls (either Biblical texts or sectarian works)?

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How's that for starters? IMO, these things would make a future version of BW even more powerful than it is. As an aside, I've been using BW since version 3, going back to 1997, and I've always been impressed to see how BW has evolved and kept in step with my growing needs as pastor, pastor trainer, then Seminary professor. Keep up the good work!

Donald Cobb
Aix-en-Provence, France

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I think these are all excellent suggestions!

• Update the GING Greek-English lexicon w/ the new The Concise Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament by Danker
• NETS (New English Translation of the Septuagint)
• OT Syriac Peshitta and a translation even if it means Lamsa's
• Better integration of Moody Bible Atlas (doesn't really even show up most times in Resources; would like a right-click link to a place name as happens w/ BW Bible maps)

Admittedly I wouldn't use it every day, but I would use it: Since the Vulgate Latin is available, a morphologically tagged version of it would be great!

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Admittedly I wouldn't use it every day, but I would use it: Since the Vulgate Latin is available, a morphologically tagged version of it would be great!

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We do have such a version already. Use VULM, VUT, or VUM. Then have the Analysis pane open. The morphology is provided for all the words in the verse and, for VULM, a gloss is provided using Whittaker's.

previously: bw is great and bw sevice is fantastic, thank you!
my wish:
a) an integrated translation tool, my english will not better :(
b) the toolbar should be all menus and submenus display with icons
c) in xref should be possible more than 1 entry in the same time
d) xref verse should open a new browser window
e) check boxes in xref to mark certain verses
f) the map module simpler user
g) caught the font size finger zoom (for tablet with win8)

that's enough for today. I hope you understand, what I mean.
God bless you,
Klaus-Peter
Germany

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Originally Posted by MGVH

We do have such a version already. Use VULM, VUT, or VUM. Then have the Analysis pane open. The morphology is provided for all the words in the verse and, for VULM, a gloss is provided using Whittaker's.

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Sorry for a bit of thread drift here, folks!

Mark, I don't see VUT or VUM in my installation of BW9 (current version, 9.0.012m.1). I had VUC, VUL, and VUO installed (and I generally use VUL, using VUO only in the Psalms, because it shows the Iuxta Hebraeos rather than the version made from LXX). Your post moved me to check the disc, and there I did indeed find VULM, as well as NOV, the Nova Vulgata, both of which I promptly installed, so that does get me Vulgate morphology (and thanks for that!), but of course the morphology is not searchable.

However, neither the complete online list of BW9 contents nor the list of bibliographical entries shows any sign VUT or VUM. What are they exactly?

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Originally Posted by Donald Cobb

Visuals
It would be nice to have the possibility of setting single versions in the Browse Window in such a way that breaks are made according to paragraphs and not verses (you can actually do this in multiple version mode if you set it up for several verses, but it's far from ideal for at least a couple reasons). Without this, BW isn't really a great program for simply reading files.

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I strongly second this one! It can be useful to focus on a small unit of the text, but generally speaking "verse-by-verse" exegesis is (or should be) a thing of the past. We need the verses as a standard reference system, but for reading, understanding, and analyzing the text, we need to work with sentence and paragraph units. Many of the texts in BW do have paragraph divisions available, and you can show those markers (in Browse Window Configuration Options). But it would be great to have the Browse Window and Browse tab in the Analysis Window have an option to display paragraphs as such, without the verse breaks.

And let me add one more: Should it really be necessary to restart the computer every time a text or two is added from the distribution discs? I just added a couple of Latin versions to my installation, and the reboot afterward seemed unduly cumbersome for such a simple modification.

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And let me add one more: Should it really be necessary to restart the computer every time a text or two is added from the distribution discs? I just added a couple of Latin versions to my installation, and the reboot afterward seemed unduly cumbersome for such a simple modification.

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If all you did was add texts, I don't think the reboot was necessary. Usually programs when they are installed ask you to reboot because they may add this or that small thing to start up or registry and it takes a reboot for that to kick in. I assume BW installer just has that reboot message as part of the installer whether or not you do something big or little.

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If all you did was add texts, I don't think the reboot was necessary. Usually programs when they are installed ask you to reboot because they may add this or that small thing to start up or registry and it takes a reboot for that to kick in. I assume BW installer just has that reboot message as part of the installer whether or not you do something big or little.

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Yes, that's what I was thinking. Yet when a program updater asks me to reboot, I always think it wise to obey. Thus I guess what I want is for the installer itself to know when a reboot is really necessary and only request it when it is needed.

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Originally Posted by DavidR

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Yet when a program updater asks me to reboot, I always think it wise to obey. Thus I guess what I want is for the installer itself to know when a reboot is really necessary and only request it when it is needed.

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See I'm much more rebellious :cool: If the computer acts funny, I might think of restarting, but otherwise I only restart or shut off my computer when I'm going to be gone for days at a time.

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Originally Posted by Michael Hanel

See I'm much more rebellious :cool: If the computer acts funny, I might think of restarting, but otherwise I only restart or shut off my computer when I'm going to be gone for days at a time.

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Rom. 13:1-2






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Ressources

Greek

I would love to see some more morphologically tagged versions of non-Biblical Koine and Classical Greek texts, e.g., Epictetus, Plato, etc. Text-only versions for several of these can already be found in the User built ressources, and are easy enough to integrate. But it would be nice to have the morphology versions for the links to vocabulary and use with the search engine ("cross version search mode").

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I have started morphological databases for a number of the classical or koine Greek databases which Michael Hanel has made available: Aristophanes, Epictetus, Herodotus, Plato, and Xenophon. I add to one when I do a cross-version search and find an interesting word to study. Doing a lot of "replace all" work speeds up the process. But I have been doing this in my spare time for years, and don't have more than a few "verses" in each of these databases which are completed. If anybody would like to take over on one of these, I would be willing to send you what I have to date and let you take over. Then I can concentrate on one of the others.

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Originally Posted by Donald Cobb

It would be very helpful to have a critical apparatus with the LXX, especially as there are sometimes whole passages that are missing in Rahlfs (e.g., a whole section of the David and Goliath passage). If it could be searched along with BGT and BGM that would be wonderful.

Donald Cobb
Aix-en-Provence, France

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I have actually been working on this as an avocation, but it takes forever (at least doing it in my spare time, when I'm not working on a different project or doing my ministry). I am almost done with an LXX variants database which supplies the missing verses in Rahlfs with text from the Rahlfs footnotes (and in a few cases from an older LXX printed edition in my possession). I have a lot of work to do with its companion morphology database. After Easter I might have some time to work on it. Since I am taking the text from the Rahlfs footnotes, and since Rahlfs is still under copyright, I do not know if I can share this work with anybody else. But of all the databases I mentioned here, this one is the closest to being completely functional.
Mark Eddy

Hi Mark (Eddy),

I believe that the Rahlfs text (1935) is in the public domain. I believe that the German copyright laws only cover 75 years, compared to the US laws which cover 95 years. The updated Rahlfs-Hanhart text is under copyright, however.

Blessings,
Glenn

Dear Glenn,
That's good to know. I guess when I have a functional LXX variants database I'll make it available to everyone God-willing.
Mark Eddy

the next wish:

h) mouse over a hebrew or greek word display the numerical value and the cross value. Search words with the same values.

God bless you,
Klaus-Peter
Germany

A small thing:
- in the Use-tab, I would like to see a radio button for "Use general search limits" and one for "Use OT" and one for "GT". Or maybe just a dropdown menu with all predefined ranges.

Another thing, discussed in another thread:
- I would like the Synopsis window and the Parallel window to synchronize with the searches in Command Line/Browse window - so that they will function as floating updated displays of the text viewed in the Browse window.

Finally:
- It is not possible to change keyboard-layout in Notes and Editor. This should be an easy fix.

Morten

Hmm... As I've said before again and again, if you want to see something in BW, be sure to contact the company through the official suggestion box! They're very good to respond and keep track of things.

Rather than specific suggested resources and features, here are a few suggestions based on my experience working with students in a seminary library and working with the BW blog. I get asked the question "What Bible software should I buy?" quite often. Now, I'm certainly a HUGE FAN(ATIC) of BibleWorks, but I always end up asking a few questions of the students, and sometimes steer them away from BW (depending on their answers).

Main issue: Old Testament / Semitic language support. If a student is planning on going into Old Testament studies, I typically advise them to either start with another software package or buy BW and supplement with something else. ;) If I were to wish for ANYTHING in BW, it would be a continued "focus on the text" but with the inclusion of both sides of the Canon! I am keen to see as much added for OT studies as possible (Peshitta, LXX, Targumic texts, DSS biblical texts, various other manuscripts, etc. - both in transcription and translation, with or without parsing - preferably with). The NT text critical materials included in BW are amazing. I'd love to see this spill over to the OT.

Closely related secondary issue: More non-canonical texts of various stripes, origins and languages. Currently no one beats BW when it comes to early Jewish Greek literature being a part of a software package's base product. BW has it all - LXX, NT, Apostolic Fathers, Greek Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Josephus, Philo . . . It's a dream come true for students working on lexical studies. Of course the expansion into other Greek literature through the BW Blog, and various user created databases is a HUGE plus. I'd love to see more developed here - even if there was just a concentrated effort on other Koine Greek texts and papyri (for the sake of Biblical Greek lexical studies). But aside from Greek, I'd love to see whatever could be added in Hebrew, Aramaic, Coptic, Syriac, Ethiopic, Latin and even Old Church Slavonic. (If it's in the cognate literature of NT studies, then it could be included . . . going back to the "main issue" above, though, Ugaritic and Akkadian would be great as well.)

A "hobbyist's" issue: When I'm not doing homework or at work, I love tinkering around with creating user created databases. I'd love to see the Version Database Compiler made to be more robust - with the ability to incorporate Unicode fonts, etc. I know that BW's current set up is super quick partly because it is not bloated with a lot of formatting, but sometimes the formatting is a part of the translation (e.g. paragraphing, italicization, bold text, etc.). Also versification and chapter constraints can be a pain. What about verse or chapter 0 for superscriptions, etc. Support of non-canonical hyperlinking in various CHM modules would be extremely helpful. It would be wonderful if a reference to Josephus, Philo, Apostolic Fathers or Pseudepigrapha in BDAG could go directly to the context (as it happens in other packages).

iOS/Android Apps: I wonder here. . . I don't know if I'd want BW to jump into the market on this, as much as I'd like to see someone develop apps and conversion tools to take BW texts (if someone has purchased BW) and put them into an iOS/Android App as needed. For instance, Palm Bible Plus used to be able to import BW texts fairly easily if someone was willing to tinker around a bit. I imagine that if someone with the programming savvy tackled the problem, a similar program could be developed for iOS/Android. The "texts" would not be available for download, but given BW's ability to export and compile versions, perhaps something could be made that could 'read' texts purchased by BW users already . . . just a thought.

Here is another one that should be pretty easy to implement:
- every verse-tagged resource showing up in the Resource-tab should be made available for "browse-reading" in the 4. pane. As it is possible right now under Verse with NET, Metzger etc.

This way, you could follow whichever Reference-module, you have installed without opening a help dial-box.

Morten

Mark Eddy--kudos to you for being willing to make the variants available. That'd be a huge helps to folks.

Agreed about NETS--that should be in here.

And while Jim Darlack's words are not Scripture, in these matters they come close, so I won't "add to" what he said. :) Except to say that if BW10 could do for Hebrew text-critical studies what BW9 did for Greek, that would be great.

The ability to drop and drag windows would be cool, too.

And better integration with Macs would also be nice, though I know BW is working on that already with BW9.

Off the top of my cranium:

1. Formatted text that includes line-breaks in poetry -- or the option to have same.
2. Versions: Lexham and Modern Language Bible. The latter was a worthy translation, though it never really caught on. It's still worth referencing.
3. Make it easy to link notes in one verse to notes in another verse. If it's doable currently, I don't know how.

There may be more, but that's what comes to mind. I just really love the program as-is.

http://bibleworks.oldinthenew.org/?p=699

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http://bibleworks.oldinthenew.org/?p=699

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Thanks very much; that's the NT, but lacks the OT. I wonder if it's the same ver of NT as in Logos now?

Another small thing:
- when you hover over the name of the Bible in the Browse Window, it would be nice with a small popup window with info on the text (like what you get in the Analysis-tab, just, that tab is not always open).

Morten

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Originally Posted by MortenJensen

Another small thing:
- when you hover over the name of the Bible in the Browse Window, it would be nice with a small popup window with info on the text (like what you get in the Analysis-tab, just, that tab is not always open).

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Of course, this information is available by right-clicking the Bible version's abbreviation and selecting "Edit version notes for this version"; but a popup would be simpler. (And the version notes are indeed editable. I'm not quite sure to what end; I suppose one could put in things like, "This was Uncle Dave's favorite translation, and you know what was wrong with him. :) )

I realize that many of these would be impractical due to copyright, but in a perfect world....
Just off the top of head, my suggestions for BibleWorks 10:

Versions:
The New English Bible
The Revised English Bible
The Holy Bible: An Improved Edition (this is in public domain) http://archive.org/details/holybiblecontain00amer
Beck's Translation
Berkeley Version
New Berkeley Version
The ESV with Apocrypha (http://www.amazon.com/English-Standa.../dp/0195289102 )
Ronald Knox Translation
George Lamsa translation of the Peshitta
Moffat Translation
New Century Version
International Standard Version (http://www.isv.org)
St. Athanasius Academy Septuagint translation (Old Testament text in the Orthodox Study Bible)
New World Translation (probably off-limits due to copyright)
The Holy Bible: An American Translation (Smith & Goodspeed)
Christian Community Bible translation
The New Testament: A Simplified Version by Olaf Norlie
The New Testament by William Barclay
The New Testament by JB Phillips
Wuest's Expanded Translation
Translator's New Testament (British and Foreign Bible Society)
The New Testament in Modern English (The Centenary Translation) by Helen Montgomery (public domain)
The New Testament in the Language of the People by Charles B. Williams
The New Testament (translated by Richard Lattimore)
The New Testament: Recovery Version
The New Testament: A New Translation in Plain English (CK. Williams)
Weymouth's New Testament (public domain)
Ferrar Fenton translation (public domain)
Translation for Translators (Deibler)
Translator's translation (Deibler)

Greek Texts:
Novum Testamentum (Merk)
The Greek New Testament: Being the Text Translated in the New English Bible (1961) edited by RVG Tasker)
Von Soden's Text (public domain)
Souter's Text (public domain)
Vogel
Bover
Tregelles (public domain)
Wettstein (public domain)
Griesbach (public domain)
British and Foreign Bible Society (both first and second editions)
Selections from the Greek Papyri-Milligan (public domain)
Here and There among the Papyri (public domain)
Select Papyri (from the Loeb set)
Oxyrhynchus papyri (public domain)
Tebtunis papyri
Hibeh papyri

Greek Textual Criticism
Metzger's Text of the the New Testament
Encountering the Manuscripts by Comfort
Scrivener's A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament (public domain)
A Textual Guide to the Greek New Testament-Omanson

Greek Grammars
Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament by Steve Runge
Prepostions and Theology -Murray Harris
Richard Young's Intermediate New Testament grammar
Buttman's Grammar (public domain)
Dana & Mantey Grammar of the Greek New Testament
Chamberlain's An Exegetical Grammar of the Greek New Testament
Moulton Grammar (full grammar, Moulton, Howard, turner)
Perschbacher's New Testament Greek Syntax
Porter's Idioms of the Greek New Testament
Goodwin's Moods and Tenses (public domain)
Goodwin's Greek Grammar (public domain)
Robertson and Davis's Intermediate Grammar (1st edition public domain)
Deissman's Light from ancient Near East (public domain)
Deismmann" Bible Studies (public domain)
Dictionary of New Testament Theology by Colin Brown
Moule's Idiom Book of the Greek New Testament
Winer's Grammar of New Testament Greek(public domain)
Syntax of the Greek New Testament-Brooks & Winbery
A Beginning -Intermediate Grammarof Hellensitic Greek-Funk

Exegetical Guides
Linguistic and Exegetical Key-Rreinecker and Rogers/Rogers and Rogers
A Grammatical Analysis of the Greek New Testament-Zerwick and Grosvenor
Baylor Handbook series
Exegetical Summaries series from the Summer Institute of Linguistics

Greek Lexical Works
Spicq's Theological Lexicon of the New Testament
Cremer's Biblio-Theological Lexicon (public domain)
Patristic Greek Lexicon-Lampe
Concise Dictionary of New Testament Greek-Trenchard
Souter's Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament (public domain)
Danker's Concise Lexicon of the Greek New Testament

Latin Lexica
Oxford Latin Dictionary.
Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Latin-Stelten

Latin Grammar
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
Primer of Ecclesiastical Latin-Collins
An Introduction to Ecclesiastical Latin by HPV Nunn (public domain)

Miscellaneous Works
Bullinger's Figures of Speech (public domain)
Soncino Talmud (or a full-blown Talmud translation, Rodkinson's is not complete nor accurate)
Mishnah translation (either Danby or Neusner or both)

Hebrew & Aramaic Lexica
Jastrow's Dictionalry of the Targumim,
Jenni and Westermann's Theological Lexicon of the Old Testament
Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament (TDOT)
Dictionary of Old Testament of Theology and Exegesis
Girdlestone's Synonym's of the Old Testament

Hebrew Grammars
Steinmann's Intermediate Hebrew
Williams Hebrew Syntax (Ronald J. Williams)
Van Der Merwe, Naude and Kroeze's A Biblical Hebrew Reference Grammar
Davidson's Hebrew Syntax (old and revised editions)
A Review and Reference Grammar for Biblical Hebrew (Horsnell)
Guide to Biblical Hebrew Syntax Bill T. Arnold

Conybeare and Stock's Grammar of Septuagint Greek (public domain)
Gary Alan Chamberlain's The Greek of the Septuagint: A Supplemental Lexicon

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Originally Posted by Kevin W. Woodruff

I realize that many of these would be impractical due to copyright, but in a perfect world....
Just off the top of head, my suggestions for BibleWorks 10:

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Surely that list isn't really "off the top of your head". If so your library work has had a profound influence on the list of resources you keep on your head :p

What did God tell Isaiah? "Before they call I shall answer..." von Soden and Tregelles are already availalbe for BW. See the unofficaial BibleWorks blog for downloads.
Mark Eddy

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What did God tell Isaiah? "Before they call I shall answer..." von Soden and Tregelles are already availalbe for BW. See the unofficaial BibleWorks blog for downloads.
Mark Eddy

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Well if we're going to start counting, then so is Deissman's Bible Studies and Goodwin's Greek Grammar :)

With absolutely no intent to minimize the other suggestions, many of which I'm not familiar with, I would pare down slightly Kevin's--impressive!--list and put the following as a priority:

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Originally Posted by Kevin W. Woodruff

I realize that many of these would be impractical due to copyright, but in a perfect world....
Just off the top of head, my suggestions for BibleWorks 10:

Versions:

Moffat Translation
The New Testament by William Barclay
The New Testament by JB Phillips

Greek Texts:
Selections from the Greek Papyri-Milligan (public domain)
Here and There among the Papyri (public domain)
Select Papyri (from the Loeb set)
Greek Grammars
Prepostions and Theology -Murray Harris
Buttman's Grammar (public domain)
Dana & Mantey Grammar of the Greek New Testament
Moulton Grammar (full grammar, Moulton, Howard, turner) [NB: The first two are now public domain, I believe]
Moule's Idiom Book of the Greek New Testament
A Beginning -Intermediate Grammarof Hellensitic Greek-Funk
Greek Lexical Works
Patristic Greek Lexicon-Lampe
Concise Dictionary of New Testament Greek-Trenchard
Souter's Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament (public domain)
Danker's Concise Lexicon of the Greek New Testament

Latin Lexica
Oxford Latin Dictionary.

Latin Grammar
Wheelock's Latin Grammar
An Introduction to Ecclesiastical Latin by HPV Nunn (public domain)

Miscellaneous Works
Soncino Talmud (or a full-blown Talmud translation, Rodkinson's is not complete nor accurate)
Mishnah translation (either Danby or Neusner or both)

Hebrew & Armaic Lexica
Jastrow's Dictionalry of the Targumim, [yes, yes, yes!]
Jenni and Westermann's Theological Lexicon of the Old Testament

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One other thing I would really like to see is this: I don't have the full-blown Logos setup and don't often use Logos apart from a few specific things, but one feature I find very helpful is the ability to save several layouts and come back to them. It's sometimes a little tedious in BW if you're working on a passage for instance with the parallel windows, plus a floating window, etc., to have to set that up again each time. Being able to save setups would be a huge advantage and time saver. Having a dozen or so tabs, as is currently the case, is very helpful, but these are more limited, and I for one have tended to use them more for permanent setups (i.e., one tab for Josephus, one tab for the Apostolic Fathers, etc.).

I would also repeat the suggestion someone made of a "mini" version for iphones, and the like. Not necessarily one that would be sold separately from the full version--I think that's where the copyright issues that BW has mentioned on several occasions would come in--but a scaled-down version for BW's regular users (that would certainly bring overall sales up as well!).

Donald Cobb
Aix-en-Provence, France

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Originally Posted by Kevin W. Woodruff

Conybeare and Stock's Grammar of Septuagint Greek (public domain)
Gary Alan Chamberlain's The Greek of the Septuagint: A Supplemental Lexicon

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Conybeare and Stock's Grammar of Septuagint Greek is already in BW too!

The TXT file for the complete Lexham english bible (both Old and new Testaments) is available at http://www.lexhamenglishbible.com/download/LEB.txt, but I don't have enough technical savvy to turn it into a usable file with the Version Database Compiler. If anyone is interested in taking this on as a project, I would be grateful!

Again another thing in the department for small items:
- when navigating the Result window lists up and down, I would like the Browse window to auto-update. There is no need to be forced to press Return for that. Why would you scroll down the list if not to look up the text in the Browse window.

Maybe this is already possible in Options?

Morten

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Originally Posted by MortenJensen

Again another thing in the department for small items:
- when navigating the Result window lists up and down, I would like the Browse window to auto-update. There is no need to be forced to press Return for that. Why would you scroll down the list if not to look up the text in the Browse window.

Maybe this is already possible in Options?

Morten

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If I understand you, click in the results list and press the left and right arrows instead of the up and down arrows.