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    Default Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus, I-016 citation from Matthew 14:14 and onward?

    I use Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus in Bibleworks 9 regularly, but from Matthew 14:14 and onward I find a strange citation: I-016
    Which is a manuscript of the Pauline Epistles, and not of Matthew.

    The description of the manuscript according to the manuscript list of Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus:
    I 016 cod. Petrop. palimps. V. VI.

    Does anyone know which manuscript I-016 in Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus in Matthew really is?
    Last edited by Jurrie; 12-18-2013 at 09:12 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Default Found two unicials 067 and 078 that probably represent the wrong citation of I-016

    I've done some comparison of the contents of uncials of Matthew (on wikipedia).
    And found that I-016 in Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus probably represents:

    Uncial 067
    For: Matthew 14:13-16,19-23; 24:37-25:1.32-45; 26:31-45

    Uncial 078
    For: Matthew 17:22-18:3,11-19; 19:5-14

    (I presume that it is a bug in the compilation of Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus for Bibleworks, and that this issue must be fixed in an updated version.)
    Last edited by Jurrie; 12-24-2013 at 03:32 AM. Reason: removed new lines (from text editor copy)

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    Default Reported the issue with BibleWorks Customer Support

    I've reported the issue on http://www.bibleworks.com/support.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jurrie View Post
    I've done some comparison of the contents of uncials of Matthew (on wikipedia).



    And found that I-016 in Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus probably represents:



    Uncial 067

    For: Matthew 14:13-16,19-23; 24:37-25:1.32-45; 26:31-45



    Uncial 078

    For: Matthew 17:22-18:3,11-19; 19:5-14

    (I presume that it is a bug in the compilation of Tischendorf's Critical Apparatus for Bibleworks, and that this issue must be fixed in an updated version.)
    Hello Jurrie,

    Thanks for this information. I saw your previous message but wasn't sure how to respond. It would be nice to check the BW module against a print version. It is very certainly in the public domain, so it can perhaps be found on Archives, or Google books.

    I'm wondering if it's not simply another nomenclature. In the 19th century, mss designations were still somewhat fluid, it seems to me. At any rate, I would be a bit surprised (but who knows) if such a large discrepancy were due to a glitch in scanning, etc.

    Please keep us updated!

    Regards,

    Don Cobb
    Aix-en-Provence, France

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    Default I in Tischendorf's edition is 065, 066, 067, 068, 078, 079, 088, 096, 097

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Cobb View Post
    It would be nice to check the BW module against a print version. It is very certainly in the public domain, so it can perhaps be found on Archives, or Google books.

    I'm wondering if it's not simply another nomenclature. In the 19th century, mss designations were still somewhat fluid, it seems to me. At any rate, I would be a bit surprised (but who knows) if such a large discrepancy were due to a glitch in scanning, etc.

    Please keep us updated!
    Hi Don,

    It is not a glitch in scanning, if checked an ibook as you suggested, in the mentioned verses I is printed.
    Your right that manuscripts designations were somewhat fluid in Tischendorfs time.

    Bibleworks automatically links I with 016, but for Tischendorf's apparatus this is not true.
    I looked up an Tischendorf conversion table in google.

    And found that I in Tischendorf's edition corresponds the following manuscripts:
    065, 066, 067, 068, 078, 079, 088, 096, 097
    (but never 016)

    kind regards,
    Jurrie
    Last edited by Jurrie; 12-24-2013 at 03:33 AM. Reason: removed new lines (from text editor copy)

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    Default More minor issues linking manuscripts of Tischendorfs apparatus to manuscript numbers

    There are more minor issues linking of Tischendorfs apparatus to manuscript numbers, for example mat 23:7:
    where two manuscript citations are merged, without a space between them.

    The following citation is given:
    GQb036 0107

    The citation should be:
    G036 Qb0107

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