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    Default Syntactical Searches in Qumran Hebrew Texts?

    I want to list all verbs in the following forms in an specific corpus (such as the War Scroll or Damascus Document). I know the formulas to do this in Biblical Hebrew, but they do not work in Qumran Hebrew. Can anybody tell me how to do this?

    1.*@v?p*
    2.*@v?q*
    3.*@v?w*

    Thanks,

    Richard

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    Why do you include the question marks? If you want all the qal verbs in QSM, search for .*@vq*
    Piels would be .*@vp* Hithpaels would be .*@vw*
    Mark Eddy

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    Default Re:

    Sorry I did not explain. The following formulas work only in Biblical Hebrew. My question is what formulas I can use to get similar results within the corpora of Qumran Hebrew.

    1.*@v?p* (= any verb, any conjugation (Qal, Piel, etc.) and perfect forms)
    2.*@v?q* (= any verb, any conjugation (Qal, Piel, etc.) and waw consecutive perfect forms)
    3.*@v?w* (= any verb, any conjugation (Qal, Piel, etc.) and waw consecutive imperfect forms)

    Thanks,



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    The searches in the QSM work the same way as they do in the WTM (with the exception of certain supplemental tags). What is different is that the Morphology Helper popup does not appear with the QSM. The same codes are used in the QSM as in the WTM.

    You can also use these same codes in the Word List Manager to search for the word forms that you specified, as well. (Do not use a period in front of the codes when searching in the Word List Manager.)

    Blessings,
    Glenn
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    The same codes that work in WTM do not wok in QSM. When I try it, I get the message "invalid reference".
    I simply want to know if Bibleworks is able to perform the specific searches below in QSM in the same way it does in WTM.

    I want to know how many times the following verbal forms occur in an specific corpus in Qumran Hebrew.

    1.*@v?p* (= any verb, any conjugation (Qal, Piel, etc.) and perfect forms)
    2.*@v?q* (= any verb, any conjugation (Qal, Piel, etc.) and waw consecutive perfect forms)
    3.*@v?w* (= any verb, any conjugation (Qal, Piel, etc.) and waw consecutive imperfect forms)


    Can anybody answer my question? If BW is able to perform these in QSM as well, please provide the codes. Thanks.

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    Hi mudum,

    The coding system for the QSM is the same as the WTM, so the same codes should work. A few things to check are as follows:

    --are you using the QSM, not the QST? (The QSM is the morphology version, while the QST is the text version. Searching for morph codes on the text version will not work.)

    --did you place a period before the word in your search? If not, then the search will think that you are trying to display a verse reference, and will yield a message to the effect that it is an "invalid reference".

    Some of the searches that work for me include:

    .*@vqp* (to find all the qal perfect verbs)
    .*@v?p* (to find all the perfect forms)

    I assume that you are using BibleWorks 9.

    Blessings,
    Glenn
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    Dear Glenn,

    Thanks for your quick reply and assistance. I could search for all the perfect forms and wayyiqtol forms, but not the waw consecutive perfect (weqatal) forms.

    In WTM I use the following code ".*@v?q*" (to find all the waw consecutive perfect forms) and works well, but in QSM it does not. Every time I try I get the message "the following word or form cannot be found in the currect search version"

    Is there another way to find all waw consecutive perfect forms?


    Another Question: How can I set search limits in QSM? I would like to find all the perfect forms only in the War Scroll, for example.


    Thanks,

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    I used the Word List Manager to search for all *@vq* (all verb forms), and set the checkbox to "Keep 3 morph codes", then ran the search. Then I sorted the list by morphology. This showed me that there are no words in the QSM that are tagged for verb qal waw-consecutive perfect. There are words tagged for waw-consecutive imperfect, but not for perfect.

    On the Command Line you can run a search for verbs + waws. This will yield more results than you want, and you will have to evaluate the results manually, but at least you can find the potential hits. Sorry that the tagging does not yield what you want more easily.

    To limit the search to just he War Scroll, you can enter on the Command Line the lowercase letter 'L' followed by the book abbreviation. The abbreviations appear on the book dropdown box in the Browse Window. In this example, you would enter 'l 1qm' and hit enter. When you are finished with the search limits, you can enter 'l' followed by nothing and press Enter on your keyboard. This sets the limits to nothing, which removes the limits.

    Blessings,
    Glenn
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    Dear Glenn,

    I much appreciate your assistance. Is it possible to search for all verbs in perfect preceded by waws (waw particle conjunction + any verb in any stem). I want to find cases like the one in Judges 3:23 with the verb we-na'al "he locked".

    Could you please show me the codes to do this both in WTM and QSM?

    Thanks.

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    Hi mudum,

    The verb and the waw are both considered seperate words in the WTM and QSM. Therefore, it is a phrase search that you need to use. Here is the phrase search to find all qal perfect verbs preceeded by a waw:

    '*@vq* w@*

    (note that the 'w' in the lemma slot is the waw, and will appear in Hebrew on the Command Line.) (To enter the @* at the right-hand side of the waw, move the cursor to the right side.)The phrase search is preceeded by the single quote mark, not the period as is the usual "and" search.

    This same search works in both the WTM and the QSM.

    Blessings,
    Glenn
    Glenn Weaver

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