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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR View Post
    I don't use the CNTTS that much yet, but this is a helpful discussion in approaching it. I think we may be a bit at cross-purposes here. Don, what you're referencing seems to be the codes that appear immediately after the text in each individual variation unit (e.g., S 0 -; - 1 O), while I think Peter was inquiring about the numbering system for the variation units themselves (e.g., 0.0, 1.0).

    Peter, it would help me follow this if you would give an example of a specific verse and its variation units.
    Hello David and Peter,

    Peter, I appreciate Bill Warren's reply and think it supplements the video's explanation helpfully--although I must say that the video does a good job of clearing things up (I watched it when I first purchased BW9, but with time, things become rusty!).

    David, actually I think Peter and I were asking the same question. Looking at what he wrote afterwards and Glen Weaver's reply confirms that in my mind. Again, this is a nice tool, but it takes a little bit of mastering to get a grasp of its details.

    Blessings,

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Dear David,
    that's nice - thank you in advance. Here one example (taken from the CNTTS apparatus of 1Cor 15,47):

    1Co 15:47 variation unit #0.0 [1Co 15:47-0.0]
    L0- 46aBCD06F010G012Y04913335697613120921842448992794599912431244124913151319144815051563157316281646172017351739176818741876187718811900196224002495MTSBLTR>>

    Why is e.g. Aleph listed as Lacuna here - there is no Lacuna in this verse. So I don't understand the L sign here. The verse is complete in Aleph. Or I'm I missing something.
    Thanks, Peter, I understand the question better now. Based on Glenn's response and on clicking the various symbols in CNTTS (e.g., 0, 98, 99) to get explanations, I believe that the L0 listing is for MSS, such as Aleph, that contain the verse with 0 lacunae, i.e., that have the complete verse with no gaps. This is not terribly intuitive, but once you know it, it is in fact quite informative (assuming I've understood it correctly). Then, as Glenn says, the 98 listing with only A indicates that A lacks part of the verse, in this case, the first two letters; but the CNTTS explanation "Partial lacunae listed at the beginning of the verse" means, I believe, that that is where partial lacunae are listed in the apparatus, not that the lacunae are only at the beginning of the verse--cf. 1 Cor 15:45, where again A is listed under 98, and has letters missing at several places in the verse. The 99 listing, then, as Glenn stated, indicates that the specified MSS lack the entire verse.
    David Rensberger
    Atlanta, Georgia

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    Dear friends,

    thanks for all the help - I think it's clear now ! You did a good Job...

    Yours in Christ !
    Peter, Germany

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