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Thread: Peshitta - transliterated text for BibleWorks ?

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    Default Peshitta - transliterated text for BibleWorks ?

    Dear Friends,

    as I wanted to have a Peshitta text with vowels, I tried to prepare and install the text of this website: http://dukhrana.com/peshitta/index.php

    Matthew 1:1 reads: kəṯāḇā dīlīḏūṯeh dəyešūᶜ məšīḥā bəreh dəḏawīḏ bəreh da(ᵓ)ḇrāhām


    I want to have it for BibleWorks now - is this possible ? A first attempt failed because of the special font.

    Thanks for all further help in this regard !
    Yours
    Peter

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    Make sure that your transliterated Peshitta was saved in a .txt file. The BibleWorks database compiler uses only files of the .txt type. (Files in .rtf format or with Unicode fonts will not compile correctly.)
    If you have a .txt file, and it still does not compile properly, you may need to do some work to get the correct vowels, soft b and soft d, soft k, cheth, etc. In order to do this, you may wish to export part of the BibleWorks BHT (transliterated Hebrew O.T.) to a .txt file. Then open that file with WordPad or Notepad and compare its system with that of your Peshitta file. You could then use the WordPad "Replace" function to replace all of the Peshitta characters which do not work correctly in BW with those used in the BHT file. But be careful! If you replace a character and then discover that that character was already used, you will not know which instances are correct and which should have been changed to something different first.
    In the service of Immanuel,
    Mark Eddy

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    Dear Mark,

    thank you ! That seems to be a lot of work. So it's not possible to include this text in BibleWorks right as it is?
    Yours in Christ !
    Peter, Germany

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    Friends, fortunately I've found the Peshitta Old Testament Text according to the Leiden critical edition on the internet - there is also a lexicon included. Please see: http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/
    As you may know the printed Leiden edition is so expensive that noone can afford it :-(
    Is there a discussion board for Peshitta matters ?

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    Oak Tree Software (Accordance 11) has a fully tagged Old Testament Peshitta. Here's what the president of Oak Tree, Helen Brown, wrote on Feb. 11: We waited for several years as Leiden kept promising to release a partially tagged Peshitta to us, but eventually we gave up and produced our own fully tagged version. I am sure we would be interested in getting their text and apparatus as well, if they ever make it available to us.

    Maybe it's time to switch from Bible Works to Accordance! Or see what they (Accordance) have at SBL in November.

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    BibleWorks 10 has the entire Leiden OT Peshitta in both Hebrew and Syriac scripts. As noted, Leiden has not provided a tagged Peshitta yet. But I would by no means abandon BW at this point. In the world of Bible software the various companies beat others to the punch on this or that database. But the other companies are usually not too many years behind. Leiden (and BW) is making great strides at providing a more economical way to study the Peshitta. If you absolutely need Peshitta this year, you may want to buy the other software. But BW has too much that works so well; it would be a waste of time and money to switch totally to something else for the sake of this one morphology database.
    God bless!
    Mark Eddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Eddy View Post
    BibleWorks 10 has the entire Leiden OT Peshitta in both Hebrew and Syriac scripts. As noted, Leiden has not provided a tagged Peshitta yet. But I would by no means abandon BW at this point. In the world of Bible software the various companies beat others to the punch on this or that database. But the other companies are usually not too many years behind. Leiden (and BW) is making great strides at providing a more economical way to study the Peshitta. If you absolutely need Peshitta this year, you may want to buy the other software. But BW has too much that works so well; it would be a waste of time and money to switch totally to something else for the sake of this one morphology database.
    God bless!
    Mark Eddy
    Dear Mark, that makes my day - how can I get Access to the OT Peshitta in both Hebrew and Syriac scripts for BW 10? I'd be highly intersted. Is it a add on module?
    Yours
    Peter

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    The Leiden Peshitta is included in the base package when you upgrade to BW10.
    Mark Eddy

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    Three questions, Mark:
    1) What is the cost of the upgrade from BW 7 to BW 10?
    2) If Leiden ever gets the tagged text, or if you get it from Helen Brown, will the upgrade to BW 10 users be free?
    3) Is it possible to get screen shots of the text? The Peshitta font for the BW 7 NT is awful.

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    1. The upgrade price from BW7 to 10 is $389, the same as purchasing it new. However, you get to continue to use some databases from BW7 which are no longer available in BW10.
    2. I have done beta testing for BW for many years, but I do not work for the company, and I have no information about cost for future modules. The company works out an agreement with the producers of the various modules which try to get them to the users at the lowest cost but always remembering that "the laborer is worthy of his wages."
    3. I think this is the same "awful" font used for the NT Peshitta in previous versions of BW. Other fonts were discussed during beta testing, so I know that the programmers are looking for something better which will not cost an arm and a leg.
    dywdd hnkvm ~yqa wh amwyb hb LPE Amo 9:11

    ~yqa Hwhypxsmw Hwht[rwt Gwsaw Lpnd

    !yrdrdd aynv $yaw ~l[d 9mwy $ya hynbaw



    lpnd dywdd hnkvm ~yqa wh amwyb hb LPEH Amo 9:11

    atmwy $ya hynbaw ~yqa !whypxsmw !wht[rwt gwsaw

    !yrdrdd aynv $yaw ~l[d
    I Mark Eddy

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