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    Hi all,

    I want to view two lexicons at once in the analysis tab. Is this possible? I happen to be a big fan of both Friberg and Gingrich, and it would be helpful to see both entries when I mouse over a word.

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    There are a couple ways to see two lexicons at a time.
    1) Using the BW Options Window (icon: wrench facing northwest) in the "General Greek options" check the first box: "Show entries from all Greek lexicons in Analysis Window". This will give you more than the two you want, unless you have installed only these two lexicons.
    2) Use one of your two favored lexicons as the default lexicon in the Analysis Window (with the cursor in the Analysis Window right click, and under the heading "Default Analysis Window Greek Lexicon" choose your favorite. Then open a floating lexicon window (icon: open Bible with a Greek alpha over it), and from the "Lexicons" drop-down list, choose your other favored lexicon. You can move the floating lexicon window to a place were you can view both lexicons at the same time. In this instance you would have to click on a word in the browse window in order for the lexicon entry to change in the floating lexicon window.
    This second procedure is necessary in order to view two Hebrew lexicons at a time, since procedure 1) above is not available for Hebrew.
    I hope this helps.
    Mark Eddy

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    Thank you Mark. Both of these solutions are livable, and each is about 90% satisfactory (which is good).

    The other 10%:
    Solution (1) Can I change the order in which the lexicons appear in the analysis window? I'd put Thayer at the bottom...

    Solution (2) I have to right click the word of interest and select from the context menu, "Lookup Lemma in Lexicon Browser." While I appreciate the alliteration present in the context menu item, I don't appreciate repeating this step every time I want to see what my auxiliary lexicon says about a given word. Is there a way to force the Lexicon Browser to sync with the words on mouseover?

    A Third Solution: Lexicons appear first in the resources tab. Before posting here, I would just look at the resources tab and expand the ones that I wanted to see. It's a bit slower than either of your solutions because the resources tab only syncs with the mouse when it is selected. I had to select the resources tab and then reselect the word in the text, hold down shift, and go back to the resources tab to expand the entries of interest.


    To reaffirm the goodness of 90%:
    It's only sometimes that I really want to see what Gingrich says when viewing Friberg or vice versa. Scrolling the analysis window or finding a beautifully alliterated context menu item are both acceptable for these extra cases. And it's nice to pass over LSJ and LEH on the way.

    But it would be preferable to have no frustrations in life, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcetera View Post
    Thank you Mark. Both of these solutions are livable, and each is about 90% satisfactory (which is good).

    The other 10%:
    Solution (1) Can I change the order in which the lexicons appear in the analysis window? I'd put Thayer at the bottom...
    Currently you cannot change the order of the lexicons. You can eliminate some from the Resources tab, but not from the Analysis tab. But, perhaps if you send this in to the suggestions link Ideas/Suggestions: Click here, the programmers might consider allowing a change of order, if it doesn't mess up some other functionality of the software.

    Quote Originally Posted by etcetera View Post
    Solution (2) I have to right click the word of interest and select from the context menu, "Lookup Lemma in Lexicon Browser." While I appreciate the alliteration present in the context menu item, I don't appreciate repeating this step every time I want to see what my auxiliary lexicon says about a given word. Is there a way to force the Lexicon Browser to sync with the words on mouseover?
    Not currently. But, you could make another suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by etcetera View Post
    A Third Solution: Lexicons appear first in the resources tab. Before posting here, I would just look at the resources tab and expand the ones that I wanted to see. It's a bit slower than either of your solutions because the resources tab only syncs with the mouse when it is selected. I had to select the resources tab and then reselect the word in the text, hold down shift, and go back to the resources tab to expand the entries of interest.
    Yes, this is a third way, but not quite as quick as the other two.

    Quote Originally Posted by etcetera View Post
    To reaffirm the goodness of 90%:
    It's only sometimes that I really want to see what Gingrich says when viewing Friberg or vice versa. Scrolling the analysis window or finding a beautifully alliterated context menu item are both acceptable for these extra cases. And it's nice to pass over LSJ and LEH on the way.

    But it would be preferable to have no frustrations in life, haha.
    Yes, it nice to look at the other lexicons. Sometimes you learn something you don't expect from checking a lexicon you don't usually use. I happen to have found a number of useful things in Thayer, which I never thought I would find there, since it is so old.
    Mark Eddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcetera View Post
    I want to view two lexicons at once in the analysis tab. Is this possible? I happen to be a big fan of both Friberg and Gingrich, and it would be helpful to see both entries when I mouse over a word.
    So long as it is Friberg and Gingrich that you want, your desire is easily satisfied.
    If you use the "Show entries from all Greek lexicons in Analysis Window" option, and set your "Default Analysis Window Greek Lexicon" to Gingrich, the first two that show will be Gingrich and Friberg.

    Friberg seems to be the BW default first Greek Lexicon; any other user-chosen default will show first, followed by Friberg.

    Yes, you do have to put up with all the others following after but, with Mark Eddy, I consider that to be a bonus.

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    Thank you Jim, that works. And I'm with the both of you in considering the other lexicons a benefit.

    It's great, too, that Gingrich is on top, because this version is abbreviated, and for most words I can see all of Friberg or at least the start of the entry.


    I'm so grateful to have this tool -- it allows me to read more of the text in each sitting than I could before with paper lexicons alone. That's incredibly valuable.

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