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    need help here .... is there a way to fond all the Hebrew words that are translated into "save" in NAU ?

    for example,
    NAU Deu 20:4 for the LORD <03068> your God <0430> ais the one who goes <01980> with you, to fight <03898a> for you against <05973> your enemies <0340>, to save <03467> you.'

    NAU Psa 80:2 Before <06440> aEphraim <0669> and Benjamin <01144> and Manasseh <04519>, bstir <05782> up Your power <01369> And come <01980> to save <03444> us!

    Is it possible to do a command line search and then import all the strong numbers(and even better Hebrew words) into a word-list ?

    any advice?

    Thanks,
    -Andley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andley View Post
    need help here .... is there a way to fond all the Hebrew words that are translated into "save" in NAU ?

    for example,
    NAU Deu 20:4 for the LORD <03068> your God <0430> ais the one who goes <01980> with you, to fight <03898a> for you against <05973> your enemies <0340>, to save <03467> you.'

    NAU Psa 80:2 Before <06440> aEphraim <0669> and Benjamin <01144> and Manasseh <04519>, bstir <05782> up Your power <01369> And come <01980> to save <03444> us!

    Is it possible to do a command line search and then import all the strong numbers(and even better Hebrew words) into a word-list ?

    any advice?

    Thanks,
    -Andley.
    There are many words in English which the translators translate the same way, even though the underlying Hebrew or Greek, are different. Here's the best method I've found, to track them: search on the ENGLISH word. For best results,

    1. Construct a Favorites which includes ALL the English translations you have. Make sure that it also includes the BGT, BHT, and Leningrad text, up at the top (I use BHT, Leningrad, then BGT as my order in the multi-version window).
    2. Make your Search version an English translation like NAU or KJV, which tends to translate a) the same words in Hebrew/Greek with same words in English, or b) translate SIMILAR words in Hebrew/Greek with the same words in English (especially, the word 'save' or 'salvation').
    3. Then make sure your Cross Search is set to ALL SAME LANGUAGE DISPLAY (not Prune).
    4. Then do your search (i.e., on 'save'). In English, the noun and the verb search separately, so you'll have to run two tabs, one per word.
    5. Then, hit your browse toggle to the multi-version (the two feet), so you can see the Hebrew and Greek. Mouse over to the Hebrew or Greek word that you saw when you moused on the English word you searched.
    6. Then note the semantic range of the Hebrew and Greek, so you can tell whether the translation is too narrow or too broad.
    7. Finally, send to the clipboard or editor, the verses which actually matched your search goals.


    Hope this answer helps you!
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    thanks for the suggestion --- i think it would work, but i'm looking for somewhat 'automatic' approach ....

    or perhaps i can rephrase my question:

    is there a way to :
    1>do a word search (eg. "save") in NAU
    2>and then extract all the corresponding strong numbers for that word ?

    Thanks again,
    -Andley.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andley View Post
    thanks for the suggestion --- i think it would work, but i'm looking for somewhat 'automatic' approach ....

    or perhaps i can rephrase my question:

    is there a way to :
    1>do a word search (eg. "save") in NAU
    2>and then extract all the corresponding strong numbers for that word ?

    Thanks again,
    -Andley.

    Okay, well I can't help you with that, since I don't use Strong's. Hope you get the answer you seek.
    'brainouty' on Youtube and , http://www.vimeo.com/brainout

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    thanks, though.


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    Andley,

    The list you are looking for (in order of frequency) might look something like the following:


    1. ישע
    2. מלט
    3. חיה
    4. ישועה
    5. נס
    6. נצל



    Here's another list according to the:
    Strong, J. (1997). New Strong's guide to Bible words (electronic ed.). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

    SAVE

    389 ʾak (1), surely; only

    518 ʾı̂m (1), Oh that!

    657 ʾephe (1), end; no further

    1107 bilʿădy (4), except

    1115 biltı̂y (2), except

    1115+518 biltı̂y (1), not, except, without, unless

    2108 zwlh (6), except

    2421 chyh (21), to live; to revive

    2425 chyay (1), to live; to revive

    3444 yᵉshwʿh (1), deliverance; aid

    3467 yshaʿ (106), to make safe, free

    3588+518 kı̂y (12), for, that because

    3861 lhn (Ch.) (2), therefore; except

    4422 mlaṭ (4), to escape

    7535 raq (3), although

    8104 shmar (1), to watch

    235 alla (2), except

    1295 diasōzō (1), to cure, preserve, rescue

    1508 ĕi mē (18), if not

    2228 ē (1), or; than

    3844 para (1), besides

    4133 plēn (1), save that

    4982 sōzō (41), to deliver


    SAVED

    2421 chyh (8), to live; to revive

    3467 yshaʿ (35), to make safe, free

    4422 mlaṭ (1), to escape

    5337 ntsal (1), to deliver

    8104 shmar (1), to watch

    1295 diasōzō (1), to cure, preserve, rescue

    4982 sōzō (53), to deliver

    4991 sōtēria (2), rescue

    5442 phulassō (1), to watch, i.e. be on guard


    SAVEST

    3467 yshaʿ (3), to make safe, free


    SAVETH

    3467 yshaʿ (7), to make safe, free


    SAVING

    518 ʾı̂m (1), Oh that!

    657 ʾephe (1), end; no further

    2421 chyh (1), to live; to revive

    3444 yᵉshwʿh (2), deliverance; aid

    3468 yeshaʿ (1), liberty, deliverance, prosperity

    1508 ĕi mē (2), if not

    3924 parĕktŏs (1), besides

    4047 pĕripŏiēsis (1), preservation

    4991 sōtēria (1), rescue


    SAVIOUR

    3467 yshaʿ (13), to make safe, free

    4990 sōtēr (24), Deliverer


    SAVIOURS

    3467 yshaʿ (2), to make safe, free
    Last edited by bkMitchell; 04-28-2012 at 07:05 AM.
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    wow .... this is more than I expected
    i should get a copy of the dictionary ...
    thank you, Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkMitchell View Post
    The list you are looking for (in order of frequency) might look something like the following:
    1. ישע
    2. מלט
    3. חיה
    4. ישועה
    5. נס
    6. נצל
    How did you generate this list, Brian? Was it done in BibleWorks?
    David Rensberger
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