Font Size problem in Microsoft Word

[jimofbentley]

Every time I import a passage from BW8 into Microsoft Word, the program also puts in a couple of extra spaces in Arial font (no problem) but with a font size of 16.

Because I always use a font size of 12 when I type, this means that I am constantly having to change the font size back from 16 to 12 before I continue.

I have checked the "Export Fonts" sizes under BW8's option tabs, and I am definately exporting Arial size 12 (in English). Although I am using a font size of 16 in both the search and browse windows, I cannot imagine that this is the cause.

The ony size 16 font I use is the SBL Hebrew, but why should that affect the English font size?

Has someone else had this problem, and what did you do to fix it?

[MGVH]

I'm using BW9, but is should be the same w/ BW8.
Your options window should look something like this:

(You might try temporarily changing your English font to something other than Arial just to make sure it's picking up that part of the font options.)

[jimofbentley]

I have been able to figure out "what" is causing it, but I still cannot figure out "why".

I set all of the fonts (Search Window; Browse Window; Export) to 12, and then began to change the Search and Browse windows font sizes to see where the problem kicked in.

For some reason, it is when I changed the Browse Window font size that the problem occurred when exporting to Word.

OK, I looked a bit more.

Remember when I said:

Although I am using a font size of 16 in both the search and browse windows, I cannot imagine that this is the cause.

Well, it looks like I was wrong. The Help File says:

"When you export text to the Clipboard or send it to the printer, the same fonts and point sizes as are used in the Browse Window will be used. They will not be changed for the exported text. This is not always desirable. Fonts which look good on the screen do not always look as good in print. This is the reason an option was implemented to force font conversions to the fonts used in the target medium.
By default the Export Fonts are the same as the Browse Window fonts. Unless you change the font selections with the "Export Fonts" option selected, exported text will use the same fonts as are used for display purposes."

So, it appears that, even though I have changed fonts and font sizes in the Export Font section, the Browse Window font size is overriding this for the final two "spaces" that are inserted - which means that all of the typing I do after importing text is at this larger font size.

My options then are:

1) live with it (as I have been until today when I got fed up with it)
2) use a smaller font size in my Browse Window - although I prefer the larger size so that I can read it more easily.
3) write to Bibleworks and mention it to them (or hope that they are reading this

[MGVH]

Maybe they fixed things in BW9, because it is behaving properly for me. (I switched my browse font to 16 but left my export font at 12.) Whether I dragged / dropped the text into MS Word or used copy/paste, it correctly brought the text in at 12 point.

So, you might try any one of the following:

• drag/drop
• Use CTRL-SHIFT-B in your word processor to bring up the popup copy dialog. There are some parameters to set, but that might do it.
• upgrade to BW9!

[jimofbentley]

So, you might try any one of the following:
drag/drop

This works fine - no problems with font size.

Use CTRL-SHIFT-B in your word processor to bring up the popup copy dialog.

I almost always use CTRL-SHIFT-B, and in experimenting, this appears to be where the problem is.

upgrade to BW9!

As of now, I don't need the new features, although if the Aussie $ stays as high as it has been against the US, it certainly will make it less expensive than when I bought BW8.

[jimofbentley]

Well, it seems like the nice people at BibleWorks were monitoring this thread, for as of the latest update, the problem is now gone.

Many thanks.

Of course, if it wasn't them, then maybe it was the nice people at Microsoft - but, either way:

Many thanks!

[MBushell]

Of course, if it wasn't them, then maybe it was the nice people at Microsoft - but, either way:Many thanks!

Naw. Not likely.

Mike

[Richard Francis]

I have a similar issue to the one discussed here: when I copy Greek text to paste into a word processing file (I use OpenOffice) it appears there as SBL Greek rather than Bwgrkl. If I copy it from the Notes file, it stays as Bwgrkl. Not a big deal, but I would like the consistency. I checked the "Configure Text Copy Favorites" and the output font is set to Bwgrkl.

Thanks,
Richard

[brainout]

I have a similar issue to the one discussed here: when I copy Greek text to paste into a word processing file (I use OpenOffice) it appears there as SBL Greek rather than Bwgrkl. If I copy it from the Notes file, it stays as Bwgrkl. Not a big deal, but I would like the consistency. I checked the "Configure Text Copy Favorites" and the output font is set to Bwgrkl.

Thanks,
Richard

Yes, I had that problem too, but with Word. You fix it by UNCLICKING the check marks which specify to export in Unicode, in both Options Fonts, and in the Copy Dialogue. To answer people who buy Bibleworks 8 when they see my BW5 videos, I just uploaded my BW8 configuration as a video, here. Export Options is at 2:06-2:20 in the video, and the FONTS options (showing unchecked Unicode boxes) begins at 3:38. I didn't show the Copy Dialogue box in that video, but will be doing more videos on configuration. When my new computer is finished, I'll hopefully start doing videos on it, in BW9. I still prefer using version 5, because the TSK database shows in the auto info window more easily than in BW8 et seq. But the modules -- unfortunately in chm format, requiring a decompiler for easier search -- are more robust in 8 and 9.

Word can't justify the Hebrew properly. When the verse runs past the margin, Word drops the BEGINNING of the verse or the BEGINNING of the line, to the next line. Am still working on how to fix that. I won't upgrade past Word 2003, because no one in my profession (legal pension) likes the later versions. Neither do I. When will programmers realize you should NEVER change the interface? Just add new/changed menu items to the structure you have?

OpenOffice can't read the Word files all that well, nor can WordPerfect. But supposedly both programs would benefit from unclicking the Unicode override, though you then must insert the copyright and link so that people can download the BW fonts.

Also, BibleWorks posts its own videos on Youtube, nickname BibleWorksVideos.

[DavidR]

I'm just going to drop in a quick suggestion to look at Nota Bene, a word processor designed with scholars (including biblical scholars, writers, and legal scholars) in mind. It handles Hebrew deftly.