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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Hanel View Post
    As far as textual criticism goes, what's needed is not more critical texts but better access to the manuscripts on which versions like the NA27 draw upon.

    I wouldn't say so.
    My opinion is that creating a critical text is the crowning achievement of a textual critics career.
    It is one thing to gather evidence or discuss individual variants, but it is a completely different task, a more difficult and challenging one, to create a complete text. Everybody who tried to do this will agree.
    Therefore my opinion is that textual critics should create more texts. They will learn a lot by doing so and the quality of their work will improve.
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    I just found that the double brackets in the long ending of Mk are missing.

    Btw. is the NIV Greek text available for BW?
    Last edited by wie; 11-02-2010 at 06:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR View Post
    I just wanted to add my thanks for the quick work that has produced the BW-ready files. It will be a few days before I have time to try them out, but I did want to note a few points.
    • I hope there are plans for "official" inclusion of the SBLGNT in future updates of BW.
    I was wondering that myself. Would an official release from BW somehow be incompatible with the existing files I've downloaded (haven't installed them yet)? Can we get an official response to this question from BibleWorks?
    Last edited by jthomp; 11-02-2010 at 09:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post
    I just found that the double brackets in the long ending of Mk are missing.

    Btw. is the NIV Greek text available for BW?
    I don't see missing double brackets here.

    To my knowledge I don't think there is any Bible program that has the NIV Greek text (correct me if I'm wrong). One could create it if one knew the changes it made from an established text like NA27, but it couldn't be distributed because it is a copyright protected text.
    Michael Hanel
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    Ah, I didn't have the latest version. Downloaded again, the brackets are there now.
    Thanks!
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    Wieland
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    I have written a short review of the text here:

    Analysis of the SBL GNT in the Gospels (PDF)
    Best wishes
    Wieland
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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post
    I have written a short review of the text here:

    Analysis of the SBL GNT in the Gospels (PDF)
    Thanks for this contribution! I am wondering if we should include it a CHM. For everyone this is a brand new text and something like what you've done is some of the first work on it that does something more than simply noting WH says X, SBLGNT says Y.

    I assume a textual commentary of some sort is in the works. Based on Dr. Holmes' answer on the text critical list, he obviously has done his homework and has it at hand. Otherwise we're left to guess what his rationale is, which isn't always very helpful.
    Michael Hanel
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    Hi Mike in Matthew 1:6 are there differences in SBL and SBL2?

    SBL Matthew 1:6Ἰεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Δαυὶδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυὶδ

    SBL2 Matthew 1:6Ἰεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Δαυὶδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυὶδ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Σολομῶνα ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Οὐρίου,

    red is omitted in SBL??!!

    ciao pasquale
    Last edited by pasquale; 11-28-2010 at 04:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasquale View Post
    Hi Mike in Matthew 1:6 are there differences in SBL and SBL2?

    SBL Matthew 1:6Ἰεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Δαυὶδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυὶδ

    SBL2 Matthew 1:6Ἰεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Δαυὶδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυὶδ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Σολομῶνα ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Οὐρίου,

    red is omitted in SBL??!!

    ciao pasquale
    No those verses should be the same. I'm not sure why your SBL shows it omitted. This is what SBL reads on my computer at that verse

    Matt 1:6 Ἰεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Δαυὶδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυὶδ ⸀δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Σολομῶνα ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Οὐρίου,

    So I'm not sure why yours is different.
    Michael Hanel
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    MA Classics Washington University
    Unofficial BibleWorks Blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post
    I have written a short review of the text here:

    Analysis of the SBL GNT in the Gospels (PDF)
    Thanks for sharing this. I have highlighted some points of your analysis and pointed to your PDF on my blog.
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