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    Wow!
    Michael W. Holmes did it!
    A new, critical GNT:
    http://www.sblgnt.com/

    Some more background: ETC blog

    Oh this was so long overdue!
    I think it is important to have more critical texts out there, the NA monopoly is/was not good.


    Update: Michael Hanel created BW files: Download them here!
    There is one version without diacritics and one with them.

    Jim Darlack converted the apparatus for Bibleworks: Download here!
    Last edited by wie; 11-02-2010 at 01:44 PM.
    Best wishes
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    Textcritical commentary:
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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post


    Someone will certainly create a BW file?
    The onus is on them. As long as it's free to distribute electronically, it can be done. But if they would deny permission, well then it either has to go underground or else be arranged by BibleWorks itself. But I'm hopeful that the terms will be as open as the Tregelles text project was.
    Michael Hanel
    PhD candidate Classics Univ. of Cincinnati
    MDiv Concordia Seminary
    MA Classics Washington University
    Unofficial BibleWorks Blog
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    The text is there:
    http://sblgnt.com/download/

    I don't have the time ATM, but it is nicely formatted, so conversion should be easy.

    "In addition to granting professors and students permission to use the SBLGNT freely in their writings, the End-User License Agreement encourages the development of new electronic and print products based on the SBLGNT through a liberal permission and licensing policy."

    "If you give away the SBLGNT for use with a commercial product or sell a print or electronic work containing more than 500 verses from the SBLGNT, you must annually report the number of units sold, distributed, and/or downloaded to the Society of Biblical Literature’s Rights and Permissions Office."
    Last edited by wie; 10-28-2010 at 01:59 PM.
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    Wieland
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    Textcritical commentary:
    http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/TCG/index.html

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    I wonder what the verdict will be on this text vs the current NA27 or better yet the coming (2011??) NA28?

    I printed out a sample of the SBL text (John 1 - 4:15). My initial reaction, from a purely aesthetic perspective, is that the NA27 has far more useful information presented to the reader. Also the SBL apparatus seems a little light, probably due to the way it references its 4 main sources. I'd be interested in others' reactions.

    I also echo the hopes of others who have expressed a desire this new text included in BW8!

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    Okay guys, here's the first version of it. Simply unzip to your \databases\ folder and re-start. Its version ID is SBL. Please let me know if you catch any mistakes. The conversion process could easily have produced them and I simply didn't catch them.

    I do not yet have time to make the apparatus available, but it is certainly possible to do that in the future.

    I also can't vouch whether this will work in BW7 because it contains diacritical marks in it and I'm not sure BW7 supports it.
    Last edited by Michael Hanel; 10-30-2010 at 11:17 AM.
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    MDiv Concordia Seminary
    MA Classics Washington University
    Unofficial BibleWorks Blog
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    Thank you very much Michael!

    I note that some diacritical signs are not correct. E.g. the insertion and the replacement sign. E.g. in Mt 12:10 it should be replacement, not insertion.

    Perhaps it would be best to remove all these signs completely.
    Or produce two versions, one with the signs (and perhaps an apparatus) and one without. I personally would prefer to have the version without the signs. One can easily compare the versions using the colored Text Comparison tool.
    Best wishes
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    http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie
    Textcritical commentary:
    http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/TCG/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post
    Thank you very much Michael!

    I note that some diacritical signs are not correct. E.g. the insertion and the replacement sign. E.g. in Mt 12:10 it should be replacement, not insertion.

    Perhaps it would be best to remove all these signs completely.
    Or produce two versions, one with the signs (and perhaps an apparatus) and one without. I personally would prefer to have the version without the signs. One can easily compare the versions using the colored Text Comparison tool.
    Wie, thanks for the feedback. 1. Yeah I noted that I used the wrong signs. I can easily fix it to the correct ones. They are consistently all the same diacritical mark, so it's an easy search and replace command.

    2. This morning in the shower I actually had the same idea as you. I will make an alternate version of the text without any diacritics. This will be a double help. It would also make the text available to people who don't have BW8 because they no longer have to deal with diacritics.

    I should be able to make these changes later this afternoon and I will let you know when I have reposted it.
    Michael Hanel
    PhD candidate Classics Univ. of Cincinnati
    MDiv Concordia Seminary
    MA Classics Washington University
    Unofficial BibleWorks Blog
    LibraryThing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post
    Perhaps it would be best to remove all these signs completely.
    Or produce two versions, one with the signs (and perhaps an apparatus) and one without. I personally would prefer to have the version without the signs. One can easily compare the versions using the colored Text Comparison tool.
    Wie, I've posted a version without diacritics. Let me know how it works.

    It's on the blog.
    Michael Hanel
    PhD candidate Classics Univ. of Cincinnati
    MDiv Concordia Seminary
    MA Classics Washington University
    Unofficial BibleWorks Blog
    LibraryThing!

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    Thank you!

    One more:

    e.g. Mark 1:42 avp╩

    Mark 2:10 a`marti,as¤
    Last edited by wie; 10-29-2010 at 09:28 AM.
    Best wishes
    Wieland
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    Wieland Willker, Bremen, Germany
    http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie
    Textcritical commentary:
    http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/TCG/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wie View Post
    Thank you!

    One more:

    e.g. Mark 1:42 avp╩
    Oh crap. Is that only on the SBL2 version? I'll fix that this afternoon. It was a problem w my MS Word "fixing" smart quotes and I forgot to shut that off.
    Michael Hanel
    PhD candidate Classics Univ. of Cincinnati
    MDiv Concordia Seminary
    MA Classics Washington University
    Unofficial BibleWorks Blog
    LibraryThing!

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