Hebrew verb statistics

[MBushell]

The easiest way to get at this information would be to use the Word List manager;

1. Set WTM as the search version
2. Right click on a word and choose to search for the lemma
3. Open the WLM (Tools button under command line)
4. Click on GenerateList
5. Select Words from Last Query
6. Make sure keep morph codes is selected
7. Click create list
8. From the Sort menu choose to sort alphabetically

This will give you a sorted list of the various parsings for the lemma.

We could probably add a feature to collapse the list and keep only N letters in the morph codes if that would be better, but this at least puts all the info at your finger tips.

Mike

[ISalzman]

The easiest way to get at this information would be to use the Word List manager;

1. Set WTM as the search version
2. Right click on a word and choose to search for the lemma
3. Open the WLM (Tools button under command line)
4. Click on GenerateList
5. Select Words from Last Query
6. Make sure keep morph codes is selected
7. Click create list
8. From the Sort menu choose to sort alphabetically

This will give you a sorted list of the various parsings for the lemma.

We could probably add a feature to collapse the list and keep only N letters in the morph codes if that would be better, but this at least puts all the info at your finger tips.

Mike

Thanks Mike. One point of clarification though. What are "N letters?" Thanks.

By the way, for you or for anyone else that has previously chimed in on this thread (Scott, etc.), can these same procedures be used to find instances (and the numerical statistics) of the different tenses such as qatals, yiqtols, VaYYiqtols, Veqatals, Imperatives, Jussives, Cohortatives, etc.?

[Adelphos]

By the way, for you or for anyone else that has previously chimed in on this thread (Scott, etc.), can these same procedures be used to find instances (and the numerical statistics) of the different tenses such as qatals, yiqtols, VaYYiqtols, Veqatals, Imperatives, Jussives, Cohortatives, etc.?

Yes, there are a multitude of ways to find out these things as long as you know what you want to really search for, such as a patah-hey ending for example, or whatever.

But the main thing is, BibleWorks is not a statistical generator, per se. Rather, it allows you to be very, very specific in what you want to search for, so there are innumerable possibilities.

You can't break BibleWorks, so the easiest thing to do if you want to know if BibleWorks can do something is to simply try it.

For example, to learn about Hebrew morphological searches, make WTM your search version and then type -- .*@ -- on the CL and look at all the options that pop up. Go through each and every one of those options, for each option opens up more options, and then that option opens more options again, and so forth and so on.

You can find out a whole lot about a program by pushing its envelope, and unlike mechanical devices, you can't break a software program by trial and error.

If you have a specific search in mind and can't figure out how to construct it, chances are that somebody here will know how to do it either on the CL or the GSE, but you have to know the specifics of what you actually want before you can begin.

[ISalzman]

Yes, there are a multitude of ways to find out these things as long as you know what you want to really search for, such as a patah-hey ending for example, or whatever.

But the main thing is, BibleWorks is not a statistical generator, per se. Rather, it allows you to be very, very specific in what you want to search for, so there are innumerable possibilities.

You can't break BibleWorks, so the easiest thing to do if you want to know if BibleWorks can do something is to simply try it.

For example, to learn about Hebrew morphological searches, make WTM your search version and then type -- .*@ -- on the CL and look at all the options that pop up. Go through each and every one of those options, for each option opens up more options, and then that option opens more options again, and so forth and so on.

You can find out a whole lot about a program by pushing its envelope, and unlike mechanical devices, you can't break a software program by trial and error.

If you have a specific search in mind and can't figure out how to construct it, chances are that somebody here will know how to do it either on the CL or the GSE, but you have to know the specifics of what you actually want before you can begin.

Thanks, Scott.

[MBushell]

Hi All,

I just posted a new exe that will permit you to do what was asked at the head of this topic. It adds a new option to the Word List Manager to permit you to set the number of codes kept when morpholohy lists are kept. If you are generating a WLM list for a verb, as outlined in my previous post for this thread, set the number at 2 and this will keep only the 'v' and the stem code. This will result in a list of all the stem occurrances and their frequency like this.

har@vq 1136
har@vn 101
har@vh 63
har@nc 14
har@vt 5
har@vo 4
har@vy 1

Mike

[arggem]

17 hours from question being asked, to a new exe being posted with a new feature. Not a record actually, but pretty amazing anyhow.

bfairchild, welcome to the wonderful world of BibleWorks!!!

Oh, and Mike, thanks for your ministry and attentive ear to your users!

[Adelphos]

So to get all the verb stems and their frequency in the Tanach I set my search version to WTM and typed --

.*@v*

waited for it to complete, then imported into the WLM as noted by Mike above, and presto chango!

That should satisfy a lot of people.

[ISalzman]

Hi All,

I just posted a new exe that will permit you to do what was asked at the head of this topic. It adds a new option to the Word List Manager to permit you to set the number of codes kept when morpholohy lists are kept. If you are generating a WLM list for a verb, as outlined in my previous post for this thread, set the number at 2 and this will keep only the 'v' and the stem code. This will result in a list of all the stem occurrances and their frequency like this.

har@vq 1136
har@vn 101
har@vh 63
har@nc 14
har@vt 5
har@vo 4
har@vy 1

Mike

Mike, when you say, "set the number at 2," do you mean "type 2 in the box on the line in the WLM that says:
"Keep ___ Morph Codes?" Thanks.

[ISalzman]

So to get all the verb stems and their frequency in the Tanach I set my search version to WTM and typed --

.*@v*

waited for it to complete, then imported into the WLM as noted by Mike above, and presto chango!

That should satisfy a lot of people.

Not so fast. I just executed the operation you suggested. All is not so hunky dory. If you sort the list created in WLM alphabetically, like I did, you'll find that there appear to be glitches. For example, if you go down the alphabetical list of verbs in the WLM, you will find verbs that begin with tzadi mixed in with verbs that begin with sin. I haven't looked at the list extensively, but that gaffe is just for starters. Any thoughts?

[MBushell]

Mike, when you say, "set the number at 2," do you mean "type 2 in the box on the line in the WLM that says:
"Keep ___ Morph Codes?" Thanks.

Yep, that should do it.