Version Display Order question

[ISalzman]

Does anyone happen to know if 'Version Display Order' is tab specific? In other words, if I open a version display order which is saved to a file (*.vdo), will it just open the file on the specific tab that I'm on? Or will it open up that display order across the board? Another way of saying this is as follows: If I would like to set my preferred version display order across all tabs, must I do so individually on every tab? Or is there a way to do this so that my preferred version display order is applied to every tab at the same time? I have the same question about saved Search Window and Browse Window version configurations. Grateful if anyone has an answer.

[MGVH]

It is NOT tab specific. Opening a VDO in any tab will change the order in all tabs. It is a good idea if it were tab specific, however, since I do have a few different orderings I use depending on the kind of work I'm doing.

[Adelphos]

It is NOT tab specific. Opening a VDO in any tab will change the order in all tabs. It is a good idea if it were tab specific, however, since I do have a few different orderings I use depending on the kind of work I'm doing.

You can save your VDO into files by clicking on the first icon in the Browse Window (next to the Feet icon), and then choosing Set Version Display Order.

This allows you to save and load VDO files at will.

[ISalzman]

It is NOT tab specific. Opening a VDO in any tab will change the order in all tabs. It is a good idea if it were tab specific, however, since I do have a few different orderings I use depending on the kind of work I'm doing.

Thanks Mark. But what about the second question that I had? If you similarly open a 'Search and Display Favorites' configuration (Tools, Options, Bible Versions, Versions), will that open up the said configuration on the current tab or on all tabs? Thanks again for any response.

[MGVH]

As I understand it, Search & Display favorites only allows you to choose the versions you want. It does not allow you to select the order in which they appear. The VDO takes priority over and Search & Display selection and thus affects all tabs.

[ISalzman]

As I understand it, Search & Display favorites only allows you to choose the versions you want. It does not allow you to select the order in which they appear. The VDO takes priority over and Search & Display selection and thus affects all tabs.

Agreed. I understand that 'Search and Display Favorites' only controls one's choice of versions and not the order in which they appear. The VDO file does the latter. Allow me to rephrase my question. Suppose I choose to edit my 'Search and Display Favorites' and add a new Display version. The change does not automatically take place on every tab (at least, I don't believe it does!). I think that I have to go into each tab manually, click on the left most button under the Command Line, and then choose 'My Favorites.' I don't believe this would work on a system-wide basis either. I believe that I would have to manually effect this change on every tab. Am I correct on this?

[Mark Eddy]

Suppose I choose to edit my 'Search and Display Favorites' and add a new Display version. The change does not automatically take place on every tab (at least, I don't believe it does!). I think that I have to go into each tab manually, click on the left most button under the Command Line, and then choose 'My Favorites.' I don't believe this would work on a system-wide basis either. I believe that I would have to manually effect this change on every tab. Am I correct on this?

This is a different Mark. Yes, you are correct. One of the reasons for having tabs is so that you can different versions on different tabs. So, if you change one of the favorites, it will not become effective in any tab unless you choose that favorite for that specific tab. And the favorites do not automatically update each other. The versions in a tab remain the same as before, even if you have changed the favorite which is named on that tab. You must re-select the favorite of that name to get the changed versions for that favorite. That goes even for the tab which is open when you change your favorites. After saving that favorite, you have to choose that favorite for the tab before the changes take place.
I hope I said this clearly enough. If not, ask again.
Mark Eddy

[ISalzman]

This is a different Mark. Yes, you are correct. One of the reasons for having tabs is so that you can different versions on different tabs. So, if you change one of the favorites, it will not become effective in any tab unless you choose that favorite for that specific tab. And the favorites do not automatically update each other. The versions in a tab remain the same as before, even if you have changed the favorite which is named on that tab. You must re-select the favorite of that name to get the changed versions for that favorite. That goes even for the tab which is open when you change your favorites. After saving that favorite, you have to choose that favorite for the tab before the changes take place.
I hope I said this clearly enough. If not, ask again.
Mark Eddy

Thanks, different Mark! (You're both 'on the mark' as far as I'm concerned! Oh, I can just hear the groans!) I think you've said it about as clearly as you could. And, yes, I followed your argument completely. It is exactly as I suspected. But I would be most grateful if you could describe the interaction between 'Search and Display Favorites' and 'Version Display Order.' That's where my question has been going all along. Allow me to be specific.

I have so far defined one 'Search and Display Favorites' collection to date. Perhaps not overly creative, I have called it 'My_Favorites.' I have also saved one Version Display Order file, which I have called 'My_VDO.' The list of resources/databases included in 'My_VDO' exactly matches that of 'My_Favorites.' 'My_VDO merely assigns a preferred viewing order to 'My_Favorites.' There are probably about a million questions I could ask at this point. (I obviously won't) But suppose I open (or start) a new tab. For me to get my preferred databases in my preferred order, must I first click on 'My_Favorites' on that tab (to open my preferred resources) and then open 'My_VDO' (to set my preferred display order)? Or is there a faster "one-click" solution, per se? Alternatively, if I start a brand new tab, if I open my saved .vdo file, will it open up my preferred resources and set my preferred viewing order? Or, do my favorite display versions need to be open first before my saved .vdo file can do its magic and set my preferred display order? I realize that it seems to be ultra hard to achieve full clarity in wording my questions here, but I hope I have made myself somewhat understandable. Essentially, I am trying to understand the relationship between .vdo files and 'Search and Display Favorites.' Primarily, how they work together and interact with each other.

[MGVH]

VDO files apply across all tabs and can be opened/applied in any tab.
Search & Display favorites are tab specific.
(If you open a blank tab, it will show up w/ whatever you had displayed in the previous tab.)

[ISalzman]

VDO files apply across all tabs and can be opened/applied in any tab.
Search & Display favorites are tab specific.
(If you open a blank tab, it will show up w/ whatever you had displayed in the previous tab.)

Okay thanks Mark. I don't mean to belabor this but will a VDO file just set the order of display versions or will it also open up any versions which may not be currently open on the specific tab I'm on (and, in fact, all of the other tabs which don't include the versions listed in the said VDO file)?

For example: Say I open up a new tab. On it, for example, I have WTT, BGT, NAU, and ESV set as my display versions. Then, I open my VDO file, which I have preset to include KJV, WTT, NRSV, RSV, BGT, PHE, etc. in their specified order. The question now becomes: Will opening my VDO file open up all the display versions listed therein so that they are now viewable on my tab? Moreover, will it also close any open versions which are not listed in my VDO file? Or, will it only change the display order of currently opened versions to match, as much as is possible, the preset display order as specified in my VDO file? I realize this might be getting complicated. But I much appreciate your insight.