Giving status was the goal
I was responding to the "I hope that the inactivity of this thread does not mean there are no more Linux users." statement with my "Mac" statement. I joined this forum when I was trying to get BW to work on Linux/Ubuntu... thus my UserName "ubuntu_user". If you want to make BW work as designed, you are limited to the Win platform. The work-arounds are, at best, okay... but native is always best. Fortunately Apple, being a superior platform to Windows, allows usage of Virtual Machines... as well as dual boot. For Mac users, we can run any software available. This is a somewhat better work-around than BW on Linux. Mac usage has increased greatly as has Linux usage as a viable Desktop environment. Linux usage in the 3rd world has exploded and is the right fit for those with limited resources. I helped a non-profit organization get 2 desktops running with Ubuntu. They asked if they could use BW. Sadly, I had to say no since it was not native to Linux. The support and frustration was not worth the time. So you can see there is a need and a market to develop BW for Linux and Mac. Unfortunately, the company does not share my desires. I have seen Accordance. I don't feel the need to have more Bible software since there are many other free ones that run on Linux, Mac, as well as windows.
And ...Yes, windows can run VM's with the exception of the MAC OS (not vice versa).
Hope this helps.
Crossover, Wine, VirtualBox, and 64-bit Linux
Well, I succumbed to an e-mail ad from CodeWeavers for a discount on their newest version of Crossover, 9.0. An e-mail inquiry assured me that it would run BibleWorks much better than Wine. I downloaded and installed Crossover 9.0 and BW8 without any difficulty. It seems to run BW8 pretty well, but the infamous bugs are still there: No button bar, and closing some modules crashes the program. There is some progress: It updates BW without problems and doesn't need fakeIE6 or any other Winetricks. The Lexicon modules open and close fine, but Grammars just open without going to the reference you're looking for. Navigating within a Grammar module is hit and miss, and when you close them, it crashes BW. I haven't taken time to explore much else. Maybe some day we'll get BW to work completely in Linux!
For two years now, I've pretty much used BW inside VirtualBox with a licensed copy of Windoze XP. I also use Logos this way since it won't even install under Wine. Two months ago I bought a new laptop and the latest versions of BW and Logos. The laptop came with Windoze7 installed, so right away I set it up to dual-boot, with Kubuntu 9.10 in the Linux partition. I'm not happy with dual-booting, I'd rather just use Linux, and VirtualBox for BW, Logos, and a few other Windoze apps. Next month, Kubuntu 10.04 will be released, so I plan to do a complete reinstallation of everything, building on that release. My problem is with my new laptop:
I bought a Dell Vostro v13 because it's super portable, affordable, and runs Ubuntu without any tweaking. It has only one memory slot with 2GB installed. That was plenty on my last computer, but now I've discovered that Windoze7 and Logos are both memory hogs. They crawl with only 1GB devoted to VirtualBox, and VB won't let me devote more than about 65% of my available RAM to the guest OS. I've been thinking about upgrading to an expensive 4GB memory card, but 32-bit OS can only use about 3.2 GB of it, the rest is just wasted money. I had an idea: My v13 will run 64-bit Linux, and VirtualBox now supports 64-bit, which would make all of the 4GB of RAM available, which I could split 50/50 between Linux and Windoze7. Has anyone tried this?
I now only have a licensed copy of 32-bit Windoze7. Will that run okay under 64-bit Linux and VirtualBox? My other solution would be to keep my 2GB of RAM and 32-bit Linux, buy another copy of Windoze XP, and give 1GB to VirtualBox for Windoze. XP seems happy with that. Any experts out there?
Thanks for Crossover update
Thanks for Crossover update. I was wondering how well it ran BW.
32 bit guest on 64 bit host? Yes.
I deleted the rest of the quote to save space. I have had much the same experience with Crossover Office and BW8. The instability was unacceptable, at least on my desktop system.
Originally Posted by Hugh
I recently rebuilt my desktop to include an AMD Phenom 4 core processor and 8 Gb of RAM. I used VirtualBox to set up a virtual Windows Vista machine, and installed BW8 there. Now it runs with all expected features and stability. That is okay for when I am home, but I would like to be able to use BW8 on my netbook (Acer Aspire One D250) which I upgraded to 2 Gb RAM. Unfortunately, I have the same issue. Besides not having another valid license (unless I wipe the Windows from it and then reinstall it in a VM), it is too weak on performance and RAM to support the a full-blown virtual machine. Unfortunately, Crossover Office and BW8 are too unstable for anything that involves going beyond the main window (such as opening up a grammar).
As for the question of whether a 32 bit OS will run in a virtual machine hosted on a 64 bit platform, it will do so just fine. That is the setup I have (64 bit Fedora hosting 32 bit Vista). I had previously tried with KVM-QEMU using virt-manager, but I never could get sound output, so that got wiped and VirtualBox installed instead. I'm quite pleased with VirtualBox so far.
Internet Explorer and Linux
Hi Linux users,
I am new user and I have been trying get bibleworks to run on my linux operating system. I am a mac user and I am running parallels. I got bibleworks installed but have run into a brick wall. It says I need Internet Explorer to activate my copy and databases. I have tried a number of different codes and I cannot get Internet explorer to run. Any suggestions?
BW8, Ubuntu 10.10, Wine 1.3.9
Installation ran flawlessly from the CD's with the above configuration.
I have an older Lenovo 3000 N100 that I had to replace the hard drive on so I had to reinstall. I upgraded both Ubuntu and Wine, reinstalled BW8 with no wine tricks or extra configurations. Previously I had to copy the CD's onto my hard drive to install.
I simply opened the CD directory and right clicked on autorun.exe and selected "Open With Wine Windows Program Loader" and it opened the installer, I entered all the pertinent Activation Codes, custom installs, etc. It prompted me for the new discs and behaved just as you would expect an install to behave.
The program opened after installation fine, everything except the usual (no toolbar icons, help files crash) works beautifully including the editors. I was able to activate the program online from the prompt and successfully ran an update. All of that without any extra work with winetricks or IE6.
Wine 1.3.9 is the latest development version...