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kpurcell
04-04-2004, 04:24 PM
I am finding that I am not the only BW user who also relies heavily on other software. What other programs do you use and why?

I have QuickVerse 8 only because it has the Holman Bible Dictionary and is STEP compatible and I have Expositors Commentary and Lessonworks in STEP.

I also use Bible Navigator because I love the Holman Christian Standard Bible and it is the only program that has it currently, other than the Internet.

I also have PC Study Bible because it has the Pulpit Commentary, which I use on occasion.

I have an old version of Logos because it has the Steve Green Midi Hymnal.

Gontroppo
04-04-2004, 06:42 PM
G'day Kevin.

I use The IVP Essential Reference Collection, version 1. The interface is not nearly as good as BibleWorks, but I can't get my computer to download the Libronix one. I find this very strange, because I have an up to date computer [Hewlett Packard Pentium 4, with 60 gigs HD, 128 megs of RAM, XP operating system].

The software doesn't recognise my cordless mouse and won't let me use the scroll button.

I like the IVP software only because of its content, which is 18 books such as The New Bible Dictionary, The New Bible Commentary [so I gave my hard copy to my daughter] the terrific Dictionary of Biblical Imagery, the superb New Dictionary of Biblical Theology and the collection which includes The Dictionary of Christ and the Gospels, etc

Couldn't have fitted all the books on my shelves!

I also use the new version of The Expositor's Bible Commentary. It has a much better interface than the original version, but I am still getting used to it. There are some excellent commentaries here, including vanGemeren on Psalms and Carson on Matthew.

David McKay

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Dan Phillips
04-04-2004, 07:12 PM
I use e-sword, largely for the Webster's Dictionary.

I also have some of the AGES software, particularly their Spurgeon collection, Owen, and The Master Christian Library (ver. 8), which has a wide collection of classical theology, commentary, reference, biographies, and a "Holiness" collection I will never, ever look at. (c;

I love AGES for the pricing and the breadth of material — but what I don't love are the many, many typos. )c8

Joe Fleener
04-04-2004, 08:31 PM
Here are my essentials. (http://users.rcn.com/fleener/Bible_Study_Software_Essentials.html)

Bible Study Software Essentials:

Bible Works (http://www.bibleworks.com/) - Currently version 6.0. The base package contains everything one needs to do original language exegesis. They also offer a select group of additional modules to aid in further exegetical study.

Galaxie Software (http://www.galaxie.com/) - Theological Journal Library. You could never afford the paper copies or the shelf space to hold all that is on this CD. (To get all the journals, you must buy version 5 & 6.)

Vocab Works (http://www.aireville.fsnet.co.uk/vocabworks/index.htm) - An excellent and FREE vocab program.

CCEF (http://www.ccef.org/) - The Journal of Biblical Counseling CD-ROM.
New International Dictionary of Old Testament Theology and Exegesis (http://www.zondervan.com/interactive/detail.asp?ISBN=031024840X)

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (http://www.zondervan.com/interactive/detail.asp?ISBN=0310248396)

The Essential IVP Reference Collection (http://www.gospelcom.net/cgi-ivpress/book.pl/code=1435) – Contains “You'll have instant access to IVP's award-winning New Testament dictionary series (Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, Dictionary of Paul and His Letters, Dictionary of the Later New Testament and Its Developments, Dictionary of New Testament Background), the immensely popular Bible background commentaries (IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament, IVP Bible Background Commentary: New Testament), and the New Bible Dictionary and New Bible Commentary, which have set the standard for Bible reference books for over a generation. And that's just the beginning! Does a particular verse trouble you? Hard Sayings of the Bible gives in-depth explanations of over 500 of the most difficult passages in the Old and New Testaments. Are you interested in the meaning of recurring images in Scripture? The Dictionary of Biblical Imagery will aid your exploration of the themes, metaphors, imagery and patterns of Scripture. New Bible Atlas, New Dictionary of Biblical Theology and New Dictionary of Theology will help round out your study of the places, peoples, interpretations and implications of biblical teaching." And more.

e-Sword (http://www.e-sword.net/index.html) - An unbelievable amount of free stuff for your PC. Excellent quality and easy to use. I highly recommend this!

Christian Classics Ethereal Library (http://www.ccel.org/) - For $20.00 you can get a huge collection of Biblical writings.

Ben Spackman
04-04-2004, 09:42 PM
Bw 6.0 is my prime tool.

In the last 6 months, I've picked up some assorted things available via Logos- The back issues of Biblical Archaeology Review, Anchor Bible Dictionary, Bright's History of Israel... I do'nt have any of their packages. They just seem too expensive, and I can do it faster in BW. ( The SESB with electronic apparatus will be pretty tempting.)

I also use E-sword for the free Keil/Delitzsch commentary on the Old Testament.

I also have some older FolioViews programs for LDS Studies.

Mark Langley
04-05-2004, 12:35 AM
I constantly use BW6 and would not part with it except for the future BW7. :)

I too use some of the Ages Software collection: John Gill, John Calvin, Reformation History Library, McClintock & Strong’s Cyclopedia, Charles Spurgeon, John Owen, and the Master’s Christian Library (8) but certainly would not recommend everything found in them. But they are a helpful source and quite inexpensive in comparison to printed editions.

As well as the following:

Luther’s Collection (55 Vols) is on CD produced by Fortress Press.

The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) on CD is a favorite.

A set of cds called the Puritan Bookshelf and the Reformation Bookshelf (62 cds) produced by a ministry in Canada.

Also, I have few dozen cds which contain books and Bible texts I have scanned for reference (no copyright material).

tcblack
04-05-2004, 09:57 AM
A set of cds called the Puritan Bookshelf and the Reformation Bookshelf (62 cds) produced by a ministry in Canada. Link please :-).

Mark Langley
04-05-2004, 11:07 AM
Hi Thomas,

Here is the site for the 62 cds.

http://www.swrb.com/

MGVH
04-05-2004, 12:05 PM
BibleWorks has become my primary biblical study tool. I still also use the following:
Bibloi (formerly BibleWindows-guess who put the pressure on to make them change the name) from Silver Mountain (http://www.silvermnt.com) because: a) it is the best 'value' for most of my students who have some Greek knowlege and primarily need some assistance translating and basic word searches, etc. [If they have the money or plan to do more detailed work, I recommend BibleWorks] and b) it is Unicode compatible [though John Kendall has written and graciously shared a MSWord macro to convert BW Greek to Unicode; Matthew Anstey has a VB Access script for the Hebrew I haven't quite gotten to work yet] and c) it is now able to import/convert any Online Bible and Unbound Bible (http://undev.biola.edu) texts and d) it has support for Nota Bene Lingua which I occasionally use
Online Bible for some of its maps and charts and Latin Dictionary [though this last item is now less significant since BW now has the right click link to Perseus]
ESword because it has CEV, GoodNews, and The Message versions and for some of its maps, art, graphics.
QuickVerse I use rarely, but I have a basic, add-in notes commentary by Kee on the Bible.
I do have some CD volumes of the New Interpreter's Bible and am planning to get the New Interpreter's Study Bible.
I also use Davka's Legends of the Jews.
I also use a number of online resources I've linked HERE (http://www.gettysburgsem.org/mhoffman/xnlinks/bibletexts.htm).

Mark Langley
04-05-2004, 10:18 PM
I forgot to metion I also have some Bible maps that I have purchased from Logos but have not been too impressed with them, but they are workable. I am glad BW has given included some maps in a recent update.

Bennett B. Wethered
04-09-2004, 11:59 AM
I've heard of the Reformation CD, available from Still Waters Revival Books (SWRB), a Canadian group. It sounds as though it's full of good stuff.
There is a review of it available at http://www.opc.org/OS/pdf/OSV13N1.pdf (http://www.opc.org/OS/pdf/OSV13N1.pdf) , p. 24.

Mark Langley
04-10-2004, 06:05 PM
I've heard of the Reformation CD, available from Still Waters Revival Books (SWRB), a Canadian group. It sounds as though it's full of good stuff.
There is a review of it available at http://www.opc.org/OS/pdf/OSV13N1.pdf (http://www.opc.org/OS/pdf/OSV13N1.pdf) , p. 24.

Hi Bennett,

I have the 62 cds that make up both the Reformation Bookshelf (30 cds) and the Puritan Bookshelf (32 cds.) If one has a taste for old reformed literature the set is a goldmine. The cds contain scanned images (into PDF) of books representing a wide variety of reformed commentaries and theology (along with SWRB's own publications). The cds do lack a good index (as the article above mentions) to help with quick searches, but if one is familiar with the titles it is easy to get around. The set contains many hard-to-find titles. The cds can be purchased as a whole set or individually.

BTW, I have no connection with the group (SWRB) in Canada nor I am giving a statement on what they might believe or practice.

Gontroppo
04-17-2004, 07:00 AM
Thanks, friends for telling us about E Sword. It has several bible versions that I wanted electronically [e.g. Good News Bible] and some I don't even own a print copy of [The Message, ISV, God's Word, etc].
My initial interest was aroused when someoen mentioend it has Keil and Delitsch.

I haven't got it looking how I want yet, but it is a most interesting piece of software.

David McKay

frankenfro
04-23-2004, 09:53 AM
Has anybody used GramCord for either PC or Mac? How does it compare to BW6?

Mark Langley
04-23-2004, 10:37 AM
Thanks, friends for telling us about E Sword. It has several bible versions that I wanted electronically [e.g. Good News Bible] and some I don't even own a print copy of [The Message, ISV, God's Word, etc].
My initial interest was aroused when someoen mentioend it has Keil and Delitsch.

I haven't got it looking how I want yet, but it is a most interesting piece of software.

David McKay
Hi David,

If you are interested in Keil and Delitsch Ages Software has in it their Master Christian Library along with a lot of other commentaries and works. Of course it is not free and there are some typos throughout the cd.

Joe Fleener
04-23-2004, 11:19 AM
Has anybody used GramCord for either PC or Mac? How does it compare to BW6?
GramCord really does not exist on the MAC. On Mac it is often confused with Accordance (http://www.oaksoft.com/) due to a previous (and maybe still existing) close relationship between the two groups.

Accordance is a fantastic tool and is a real good counterpart to BW 6.0. It has a few tools that BW does not offer yet, but I sure will in time. Of course, it is only available for the Mac.

GramCord for Windows is no comparison at all. This is an Apples to Oranges comparison. They were one of the originals and did some fantastic work to get exegetical software to where it is today. However, it is not even considered a reliable Exegetical Software program anymore. The GramCord Institute will continue operations on their text research and the development of the GNT/GNM databases (which are usd by Accordance, Logos and others), but they will not longer be developing exegetical software.

The existing Gramcord software that is still available for purchase would compare somewhat (however, even here it falls short) with BW 4.0 or earlier versions. 5.0 surpasses GramCord, 6.0 goes to a completely new level.

Vernon Bauer
04-23-2004, 11:46 AM
Accordance is a fantastic tool and is a real good counterpart to BW 6.0. It has a few tools that BW does not offer yet, but I sure will in time. Of course, it is only available for the Mac.
Joe, what are some of the tools that Accordance has that BW doesn't yet have?

Vernon Bauer

Joe Fleener
04-23-2004, 11:52 AM
Vernon,

I think the best thing would be for you to see their site.

http://www.oaksoft.com/welcome/newto.htm list several of the modules available for the Scholar's Collection.

This would probably be better than me listing all the modules Accordance has and BW does not. Some of them I am not interested in and fall outside the scope of BW.

Something else to keep in mind, Accordance comes in several modules that are purchased individually and unlocked. It really adds up quick.

Charlie
04-23-2004, 12:15 PM
The GramCord Institute will continue operations on their text research and the development of the GNT/GNM databases (which are usd by Accordance, Logos and others), but they will not longer be developing exegetical software.


Joe, I must be totally out the loop. I did not know this and I can't find any mention of it on the Gramcord website. Where did you hear/read it?

By the way, it should be noted that the GNM you mention here, should more accurately be refered to as the "GramCord Greek NT morphology." In BW the version we call the GNM is the Friberg Greek NT morphology. I know you know this, but I didn't want others to be confused.

Charlie

Joe Fleener
04-23-2004, 12:21 PM
Charlie,

Thanks for the clarification on the GNM, with only three initials things can get a bit confusing.

Paul Miller from GramCord has mentioned their eventual exit from software development to two people on the faculty of the seminary where I work.

frankenfro
04-23-2004, 06:02 PM
thanks for the info. i forgot the mac program was called "accordance"

Tom Whittemore
05-05-2004, 02:36 AM
Dear Brothers and Sisters:

I use e-Sword for "vanilla", day-to-day Bible Studies for it's ease of use and relatively ease module creation. I have acquired much study material in e-Sword that are not yet offered in BW. (Awaiting delivery of my HP Pocket PC to try the e-Sword Pocket PC version.)

For more in-depth Bible Studies, especially in the original languages, BW6 is the tool!

I do use QuickVerse 8 for any large STEP-based documents, but e-Sword for the smaller STEP-based docs.

AGES Master Christian Library and Pulpit Commentaries, Bible Library 6, Logos Jewish New Testament & JNT Commentary, Early Christian Writings, and the Sacred Text Archives round out my online library. I also use the Watchtower Library 2001 CD to search their own literature for discussion/witnessing purposes.

Agape Love, always.

Tom W.

Pastork
06-11-2004, 02:56 PM
I also use e-Sword in conjunction with BibleWorks. In fact, I have been creating a number of modules for e-Sword. Those who are Reformed Baptists like me may be especially interested in the the James P. Boyce and John Gill modules. I have also been given permission by Desiring God Ministries to create Topic Notes modules of John Piper's sermons for e-Sword and offer them for download.

In case any are interested: http://www.immanuelhomepage.org/Downloads.html

You will find a good list of links to other e-Sword materials here: http://immanuelforum.org/phpbb/index.php?c=6&sid=748301f5b8e5af09e24dd6b0cf14741b

Joe Fleener
06-11-2004, 03:24 PM
This is fantastic. Thank you for your work and contribution.

God Bless,

Pastork
06-11-2004, 03:35 PM
No problem. I plan to add a number of other resources, such as J.L. Dagg's Manual of Theology and about two or three new Piper files per week.

You can check the Immanuel Forum or the Downloads page regularly for updates.

Gontroppo
06-12-2004, 12:03 AM
After a year of frustration, I have finally got the Libronix interface [engine?] to install on my computer and am finding this a great boon to using the IVP Essential Reference Collection.

If you own a copy of the original version, you can download the Libronix engine for free, but installing it has its quirks. You will probably need to read the pages about problems with installation.

But it works much better than the original software. My Logos version would often crash on start up, and would not recognise my scrolling mouse.

The new version is much more functional.

David McKay

song_robin
06-29-2006, 02:54 PM
In case anybody's interested, I have just uploaded 12 new Bibles to the Master List which includes all of e-Sword's "missing" Bibles as well (e.g. Good News Bible, etc.)

Check it out at:

http://www.bibleworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1648

Blessings,

Robin

update: The new 07-04-06 installer has approximately 40 new Bibles

Pastork
06-29-2006, 03:19 PM
For those of you who have enjoyed the many modules for e-Sword at the Immanuel Downloads page, I want to let you know that the page has been removed from the Immanuel site.

However, all of the e-Sword modules have been moved to http://www.pastorthroop.com/ and are available for download there. New modules will also be added in the future.

kottman6
07-13-2006, 11:27 AM
I'm sorry if this has already been asked clearly.

I have Quickverse 8 and have been using it against my will. In other words, it's interface is poor and clunky. I couple weeks ago I bought BW7 and am loving it. But there are certain STEP books that I still want easy access to in QV8. I have seen some info about external resources but it didn't help.

Can I somehow import the QV8 STEP books into BW7?

Thanks!

song_robin
07-13-2006, 01:41 PM
If the step books can somehow be converted into text format, then yes, it can be done.

The procedure of reformatting a text to be BibleWorks compatible, however, can be tricky (and sometimes painful). However, if you find a way to post (or send me) some of these books, I can take a look and time allowing, I can try to convert some for you and add them (later) to the master list.

Thanks,

Robin

Michael Hanel
07-13-2006, 03:02 PM
If the step books can somehow be converted into text format, then yes, it can be done.

The procedure of reformatting a text to be BibleWorks compatible, however, can be tricky (and sometimes painful). However, if you find a way to post (or send me) some of these books, I can take a look and time allowing, I can try to convert some for you and add them (later) to the master list.

Thanks,

Robin

To my knowledge users have not really experimented much in this front, but it would also be possible to turn such resources into User Add-on modules (Chapter 47 in BW7 Online help), which means you convert the resouce into HTML Help format. This could be a very beneficial and flexible way to do things especially if the resource you are considering is more complex. Like I said, I don't know of any one yet who has played with this, but if you're computer savvy or have the time to play with it, try using that format and see if it works well.

kottman6
07-19-2006, 11:21 AM
Robin,
Can I send you a book to try to convert?

jakemccarty
07-19-2006, 11:25 PM
Joe, what are some of the tools that Accordance has that BW doesn't yet have?

Vernon Bauer

The Mishnah (Hebrew, English), DSS English translation, NW Inscriptions, the "real Peshita", and the Samaritan Pentateuch) and that's not to mention the Logos material that is being made available (JM grammar).

But soon 25% of the Bible won't be able to monopolize 75% (maybe this is a slight exaggeration) of the resources in BW as Joe said: "Accordance is a fantastic tool and is a real good counterpart to BW 6.0. It has a few tools that BW does not offer yet, but I sure will in time. Of course, it is only available for the Mac."

Thanks Joe for mentioning that providing us OT folks with high quality material is a priority.