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andley
04-23-2012, 10:48 PM
need help here .... is there a way to fond all the Hebrew words that are translated into "save" in NAU ?

for example,
NAU Deu 20:4 for the LORD <03068> your God <0430> ais the one who goes <01980> with you, to fight <03898a> for you against <05973> your enemies <0340>, to save <03467> you.'

NAU Psa 80:2 Before <06440> aEphraim <0669> and Benjamin <01144> and Manasseh <04519>, bstir <05782> up Your power <01369> And come <01980> to save <03444> us!

Is it possible to do a command line search and then import all the strong numbers(and even better Hebrew words) into a word-list ?

any advice?

Thanks,
-Andley.

brainout
04-27-2012, 05:07 PM
need help here .... is there a way to fond all the Hebrew words that are translated into "save" in NAU ?

for example,
NAU Deu 20:4 for the LORD <03068> your God <0430> ais the one who goes <01980> with you, to fight <03898a> for you against <05973> your enemies <0340>, to save <03467> you.'

NAU Psa 80:2 Before <06440> aEphraim <0669> and Benjamin <01144> and Manasseh <04519>, bstir <05782> up Your power <01369> And come <01980> to save <03444> us!

Is it possible to do a command line search and then import all the strong numbers(and even better Hebrew words) into a word-list ?

any advice?

Thanks,
-Andley.

There are many words in English which the translators translate the same way, even though the underlying Hebrew or Greek, are different. Here's the best method I've found, to track them: search on the ENGLISH word. For best results,


Construct a Favorites which includes ALL the English translations you have. Make sure that it also includes the BGT, BHT, and Leningrad text, up at the top (I use BHT, Leningrad, then BGT as my order in the multi-version window).
Make your Search version an English translation like NAU or KJV, which tends to translate a) the same words in Hebrew/Greek with same words in English, or b) translate SIMILAR words in Hebrew/Greek with the same words in English (especially, the word 'save' or 'salvation').
Then make sure your Cross Search is set to ALL SAME LANGUAGE DISPLAY (not Prune).
Then do your search (i.e., on 'save'). In English, the noun and the verb search separately, so you'll have to run two tabs, one per word.
Then, hit your browse toggle to the multi-version (the two feet), so you can see the Hebrew and Greek. Mouse over to the Hebrew or Greek word that you saw when you moused on the English word you searched.
Then note the semantic range of the Hebrew and Greek, so you can tell whether the translation is too narrow or too broad.
Finally, send to the clipboard or editor, the verses which actually matched your search goals.


Hope this answer helps you! :rolleyes:

andley
04-27-2012, 08:33 PM
thanks for the suggestion --- i think it would work, but i'm looking for somewhat 'automatic' approach ....

or perhaps i can rephrase my question:

is there a way to :
1>do a word search (eg. "save") in NAU
2>and then extract all the corresponding strong numbers for that word ?

Thanks again,
-Andley.

brainout
04-28-2012, 03:10 AM
thanks for the suggestion --- i think it would work, but i'm looking for somewhat 'automatic' approach ....

or perhaps i can rephrase my question:

is there a way to :
1>do a word search (eg. "save") in NAU
2>and then extract all the corresponding strong numbers for that word ?

Thanks again,
-Andley.






Okay, well I can't help you with that, since I don't use Strong's. Hope you get the answer you seek.

andley
04-28-2012, 05:18 AM
thanks, though. :)

bkMitchell
04-28-2012, 07:39 AM
Andley,

The list you are looking for (in order of frequency) might look something like the following:



ישע
מלט
חיה
ישועה
נס
נצל



Here's another list according to the:
Strong, J. (1997). New Strong's guide to Bible words (electronic ed.). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

SAVE

389 ʾak (1), surely; only

518 ʾı̂m (1), Oh that!

657 ʾephe (1), end; no further

1107 bilʿădy (4), except

1115 biltı̂y (2), except

1115+518 biltı̂y (1), not, except, without, unless

2108 zwlh (6), except

2421 chyh (21), to live; to revive

2425 chyay (1), to live; to revive

3444 yᵉshwʿh (1), deliverance; aid

3467 yshaʿ (106), to make safe, free

3588+518 kı̂y (12), for, that because

3861 lhn (Ch.) (2), therefore; except

4422 mlaṭ (4), to escape

7535 raq (3), although

8104 shmar (1), to watch

235 alla (2), except

1295 diasōzō (1), to cure, preserve, rescue

1508 ĕi mē (18), if not

2228 ē (1), or; than

3844 para (1), besides

4133 plēn (1), save that

4982 sōzō (41), to deliver


SAVED

2421 chyh (8), to live; to revive

3467 yshaʿ (35), to make safe, free

4422 mlaṭ (1), to escape

5337 ntsal (1), to deliver

8104 shmar (1), to watch

1295 diasōzō (1), to cure, preserve, rescue

4982 sōzō (53), to deliver

4991 sōtēria (2), rescue

5442 phulassō (1), to watch, i.e. be on guard


SAVEST

3467 yshaʿ (3), to make safe, free


SAVETH

3467 yshaʿ (7), to make safe, free


SAVING

518 ʾı̂m (1), Oh that!

657 ʾephe (1), end; no further

2421 chyh (1), to live; to revive

3444 yᵉshwʿh (2), deliverance; aid

3468 yeshaʿ (1), liberty, deliverance, prosperity

1508 ĕi mē (2), if not

3924 parĕktŏs (1), besides

4047 pĕripŏiēsis (1), preservation

4991 sōtēria (1), rescue


SAVIOUR

3467 yshaʿ (13), to make safe, free

4990 sōtēr (24), Deliverer


SAVIOURS

3467 yshaʿ (2), to make safe, free

andley
04-28-2012, 11:08 AM
wow .... this is more than I expected :)
i should get a copy of the dictionary ...
thank you, Brian.

DavidR
04-28-2012, 01:47 PM
The list you are looking for (in order of frequency) might look something like the following:

ישע
מלט
חיה
ישועה
נס
נצל


How did you generate this list, Brian? Was it done in BibleWorks?