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brethicks
12-31-2010, 02:01 PM
Does anyone know if the old NIV (1984) will continue to be available in BibleWorks after the new NIV is released? And what are BW's plans regarding the new NIV? Will it be given to people who already have the NIV, or will it be a separate purchase?

In Christ,

Bret

jimofbentley
12-31-2010, 08:20 PM
Does anyone know if the old NIV (1984) will continue to be available in BibleWorks after the new NIV is released? And what are BW's plans regarding the new NIV? Will it be given to people who already have the NIV, or will it be a separate purchase?

In Christ,

Bret

Considering the wide variety of English translations available in BibleWorks, it is fairly certain that the older NIV editions will continue to be available.

Whether or not the "new" NIV will be provided free or as a separate purchase, we will probably have to wait to see how negotiations between BW and the publishers of the NIV work out.

But the one question that remains is: "can I be bothered switching to the 'new' NIV"? That is yet to be decided as they haven't reached the shops here in Australia yet - at least, not as I have noticed.

MBushell
12-31-2010, 08:41 PM
Does anyone know if the old NIV (1984) will continue to be available in BibleWorks after the new NIV is released? And what are BW's plans regarding the new NIV? Will it be given to people who already have the NIV, or will it be a separate purchase?

It all depends on how negotiations go with Zondervan. That is still in process. In the past many publishers have required us to remove old versions. We have requested that we be able to retain both versions. But it is entirely up to the publisher. If you have the NIV now you will be able to keep it when the switch occurs. Whether or not new purchasers of BibleWorks can have both is up to the publisher and we have no word on that at present.

We at BibleWorks wish you all a happy and (spiritually) prosperous New Year.

Mike

monsoongem
03-23-2013, 10:20 PM
Does anyone know if the old NIV (1984) will continue to be available in BibleWorks after the new NIV is released? And what are BW's plans regarding the new NIV? Will it be given to people who already have the NIV, or will it be a separate purchase?

In Christ,

Bret

To Bret: Hours of searching online & found it! Thank you Lord! 1984 NIV pdf here... http://guidedb.org/pdf/new-international-version-bible.html
Free, top selection on page with blue bar on left. No signup, or credit card required for "free" trial. Opening preview page is slow, but once you click download it is quick, and searchable. Blessings on you, and please share where you can. Many people are looking for this, and I found it on page 33 or something of search results, where I thought it may be too deep to be pulled right away. I felt I had to share this so just picked the first person I saw online who was asking. Joy of the Lord on you. M

Lee
03-25-2013, 12:37 PM
Actually, the 1984 NIV does remain available in BW along with the updated version.

DavidR
03-25-2013, 03:25 PM
Correct. There are at least 3 editions of the NIV in BibleWorks 9: NIV (the 2011 revision); TNIV (Today's NIV from 2001); and NIVO (the 1984 edition). But, reading the exchange from several years ago, I wonder if that is true only for those who already had it in previous versions of BW, or for new purchasers as well?

Lee
03-25-2013, 04:43 PM
Correct. There are at least 3 editions of the NIV in BibleWorks 9: NIV (the 2011 revision); TNIV (Today's NIV from 2001); and NIVO (the 1984 edition). But, reading the exchange from several years ago, I wonder if that is true only for those who already had it in previous versions of BW, or for new purchasers as well?

Good point. I'm pretty sure that would only apply to those who already had BW before BW obtained the new NIV release.

JamesAH
11-03-2014, 01:32 PM
Is the NIV84 still available from Bibleworks or have they completely removed it?

Edit nevermind seems to be removed from BW9.

Jim Wert
11-03-2014, 05:25 PM
It is my impression that BibleWorks9 still ships with the NIB version, which is the UK edition of the 1984 NIV.
I compared NIVO (the 1984 NIV that is still available to those of us who had BibleWorks before the 2011 NIV was added to BW) with NIB. According to the BW compare, 12.7% of the verses had differences. This is slightly overstated; the are some false positives, due, I think, to different positions of blanks, and the problem BW compare has with verse mappings.
My impression is that BW was less active in maintaining the NIB version. For example, the verse mapping file is smaller than for NIVO.
The majority of the differences are in spelling or hyphenation. There are quite a few differences that I do not recognize as being British English, but seem to me to be personal preference of the editors involved. The most awkward for an American user is probably the British words related to grain -- corn and cob are sometimes used instead of grain and head.

JamesAH
11-03-2014, 08:37 PM
I take it that the UK version is the Anglicised version am I correct Jim?

Mark Eddy
11-05-2014, 01:46 AM
According to the BW compare, 12.7% of the verses had differences. This is slightly overstated; the are some false positives, due, I think, to different positions of blanks, and the problem BW compare has with verse mappings.
My impression is that BW was less active in maintaining the NIB version. For example, the verse mapping file is smaller than for NIVO.

Actually, the NIB verse mapping file you have might be slightly more accurate than your NIVO verse mapping file, since the NIB gets updated (if necessary) with BW updates, while the NIVO may not, since it is no longer offered in BW.
That being said, the biggest difference in the verse mappings is due to the fact that NIVO has footnotes, and NIB does not. Numerous blank verses in the New Testament (where the Nestle-Aland text omits verse in the Textus Receptus) are included in the NIVO footnotes for the previous verse. For that reason those verses are mapped to the blank verses, so that BW users can see how the NIVO translated those sections of the Textus Receptus. Apart from that, I found only 3 differences to update in NIB in order to have it agree with NIVO, one in Isaiah, one in Mark 7, and one in 1 Peter 1. They'll be updated the next time BW updates verse map files. I am not sure how best to make the NIVO verse map file available. I guess it could be updated with the rest, and new BW users would be left to wonder what it is (if they ever find it).
Mark Eddy