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majorsurch4
03-04-2010, 07:45 PM
How does one get BW8 to display the pericopes of any given Bible version?

wie
03-05-2010, 03:08 AM
Define "pericope".

ISalzman
03-05-2010, 11:42 AM
How does one get BW8 to display the pericopes of any given Bible version?

Majorsurch4, I believe, by pericopes, you mean the in-text headings and outlined sections in the different bible versions. My understanding is that these are not provided in BibleWorks. BibleWorks does contain an outline of the Bible, but it has been prepared by an individual and it is designed to serve all bible versions. Unfortunately, the version-specific outlines and section headings are just not provided in and with BibleWorks. That, at least, is my understanding. If anyone has a different understand, they can chime in here.

Mark Eddy
03-05-2010, 09:26 PM
Actually there are at least 7 different groups of headings which can be displayed above the browse window, only 3 of which are in English. One is the NIV headings.
You may wish to use the Synopsis Tool. A number of the synopsis files have the Bible divided into pericopes.
Or, you may choose the browse window option "Show paragraph markers" in browse mode, and the text will be divided into paragraphs. If I remember correctly these paragraph markers were taken from the RSV and made to work with all Bible versions.
I hope that one of these options is helpful for you.
Mark Eddy

ISalzman
03-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Actually there are at least 7 different groups of headings which can be displayed above the browse window, only 3 of which are in English. One is the NIV headings.

Mark Eddy

Mark, I don't think you're correct with that assertion. Can you furnish information as to where those "7 different groups of headings which can be displayed above the Browse Window" may be accessed and located within the program? Thanks.

Michael Hanel
03-05-2010, 09:59 PM
Mark, I don't think you're correct with that assertion. Can you furnish information as to where those "7 different groups of headings which can be displayed above the Browse Window" may be accessed and located within the program? Thanks.

Above the browse window, the Bible outline has a pulldown menu, immediately to the right is another down pointed arrow which, if you click it, will list the options of other Bible outlines.

ISalzman
03-05-2010, 10:06 PM
Above the browse window, the Bible outline has a pulldown menu, immediately to the right is another down pointed arrow which, if you click it, will list the options of other Bible outlines.

Michael, I stand corrected. Never saw that before. Do you know what the different outline options represent? I see the NIV. There is also something abbreviated A83. Is there some way to decipher what the different outline options are? Thanks.

Michael Hanel
03-05-2010, 10:21 PM
Michael, I stand corrected. Never saw that before. Do you know what the different outline options represent? I see the NIV. There is also something abbreviated A83. Is there some way to decipher what the different outline options are? Thanks.

I imagine it pairs with the Bible version "a83" which looks like it is some Afrikaans version. But you're right, there is no clear statement describing them that I can tell. I just open them and see what they look like they go with.

ISalzman
03-05-2010, 10:32 PM
I imagine it pairs with the Bible version "a83" which looks like it is some Afrikaans version. But you're right, there is no clear statement describing them that I can tell. I just open them and see what they look like they go with.

Thanks for the response, Michael. In so far as I can tell, there are only two English outline sets - those from the NIV and a generic set entitled 'Outline.' I believe I once got an e-mail from a BW staffer to the effect that the different bible publishers did not provide BW with electronic (i.e., digital) section headings. That's why they are lacking in the program. While I can certainly sympathize, Logos, on the other hand, does provide the pericope headings from the different bible versions. Personally, I find section headings helpful. But, alas, I recognize that Logos has a larger staff to work with and I suppose that they have the luxury of being able to input the version headings in-house.

Michael Hanel
03-05-2010, 11:04 PM
Thanks for the response, Michael. In so far as I can tell, there are only two English outline sets - those from the NIV and a generic set entitled 'Outline.' I believe I once got an e-mail from a BW staffer to the effect that the different bible publishers did not provide BW with electronic (i.e., digital) section headings. That's why they are lacking in the program. While I can certainly sympathize, Logos, on the other hand, does provide the pericope headings from the different bible versions. Personally, I find section headings helpful. But, alas, I recognize that Logos has a larger staff to work with and I suppose that they have the luxury of being able to input the version headings in-house.

The generic "outline" is referred to as (Bruce) Metzger's Bible Outline. So I believe it's the one that would be found in the Oxford Bible that he edited.

ISalzman
03-05-2010, 11:31 PM
The generic "outline" is referred to as (Bruce) Metzger's Bible Outline. So I believe it's the one that would be found in the Oxford Bible that he edited.

Thanks. A prolific man, that Metzger!

A retired pastor with whom I'm friendly studied under him. He (my friend) is filled with the profoundest admiration for his former professor.

Precha1
03-06-2010, 08:29 PM
Above the browse window, the Bible outline has a pulldown menu, immediately to the right is another down pointed arrow which, if you click it, will list the options of other Bible outlines.

Hey Michael,

Are you one of the BW instructors? If so, I'd like to know when and attend your classes on getting the most out of BW. Particularly on those "tidbits" they go beyond the basic workshops.

Michael Hanel
03-06-2010, 09:26 PM
Hey Michael,

Are you one of the BW instructors? If so, I'd like to know when and attend your classes on getting the most out of BW. Particularly on those "tidbits" they go beyond the basic workshops.

Ha. No employee here. Although, if I remember right, I believe Irving at one point did offer me a BibleWorks cruise...

The real key is just listening around on these forums ever since I got BibleWorks. I've learned all kinds of things. Usually you learn how to use the program for what you need, you never try anything else. But these forums remind me of other parts of the program I may use less often.

ISalzman
03-06-2010, 09:48 PM
Ha. No employee here. Although, if I remember right, I believe Irving at one point did offer me a BibleWorks cruise...


I sure did. My big idea for a BibleWorks cruise didn't seem to generate much excitement from the ranks unfortunately. My suggestion of a BibleWorks Conference near HQ didn't seem to create much of a buzz either. Well, I guess I've still got my wife and kids!

Michael Hanel
03-06-2010, 10:27 PM
I sure did. My big idea for a BibleWorks cruise didn't seem to generate much excitement from the ranks unfortunately. My suggestion of a BibleWorks Conference near HQ didn't seem to create much of a buzz either. Well, I guess I've still got my wife and kids!

As someone who doesn't know how to swim, the thought of being on a boat with no land anywhere in sight has never been particularly attractive. Combine that with having no desire to experience sea-sickness and you can see why I'm such a fan of things :p

I don't know how the BW staff decides when and where to do training workshops. All I know is the people to talk to about it are found at this address: training@bibleworks.com.

Mark Eddy
03-07-2010, 12:01 AM
Thanks for pinch hitting for me, Michael. The third English set of headings is called "parashot". I know, it is is Hebrew term, but the headings are in English. scl and zur are in German. Yes, a83 is Afrikaans, and nbh is Spanish. Forgive me for not being more clear about where these sets of headings can be found.
In Christ,
Mark Eddy

Adelphos
03-07-2010, 12:35 AM
As someone who doesn't know how to swim...
You pay my way and I'll teach you and anyone else who wants how to swim. And surf, too, if they have the surf thing on the boat. And scuba too, if they have that. Aw heck, I'll teach ya'all anything and everything to do with the water sports. All you gotta do is get me on that boat without me having to pay!

Precha1
03-07-2010, 06:11 AM
You pay my way and I'll teach you and anyone else who wants how to swim. And surf, too, if they have the surf thing on the boat. And scuba too, if they have that. Aw heck, I'll teach ya'all anything and everything to do with the water sports. All you gotta do is get me on that boat without me having to pay!

Interesting. Let me not be presumptious and ask: WILL YOU TEACH BIBLE WORKS? LOL

Adelphos
03-07-2010, 12:50 PM
Interesting. Let me not be presumptious and ask: WILL YOU TEACH BIBLE WORKS? LOL

Yeah, we can get a few underwater tablets and I'll hold school on BW at the same time we're learning basic SCUBA. :cool: