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Ben Spackman
08-03-2004, 08:41 PM
I brought this up back in February, I thought I raise it again.

What about adding Jastrow's Dictionary of the Targumim,
the Talmud Babli and Yerushalmi, and the Midrashic Literature?
It's online in .pdf form from Etana.
http://www.cwru.edu/UL/preserve/Etana/JAST.DICv1/JAST.DICv1.html (http://www.cwru.edu/UL/preserve/Etana/JAST.DICv1/JAST.DICv1.html)
I assume that means the copyright has run out, but I don't know.

Given the addition of the the Targumim and DSS, this would be a great addition.

How much interest is there?

Joe Fleener
08-03-2004, 10:30 PM
I would like to see it included as well.

The copyright notice on the website indicates 1903, so it should be public domain.

There is a very nice chart that explains the "basics" (nothing on this topic is basic) on copyright and when items pass into Public Domain @ http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Domain.htm

jdarlack
08-04-2004, 01:34 AM
I agree, this would be a welcome addition!

~Jim

Roy Ciampa
08-04-2004, 02:16 AM
I would also like to see Jastrow included.

Ewan MacLeod
08-04-2004, 05:06 AM
What about adding Jastrow's Dictionary of the Targumim,
the Talmud Babli and Yerushalmi, and the Midrashic Literature?
It's online in .pdf form from Etana.
http://www.cwru.edu/UL/preserve/Etana/JAST.DICv1/JAST.DICv1.html (http://www.cwru.edu/UL/preserve/Etana/JAST.DICv1/JAST.DICv1.html)
I assume that means the copyright has run out, but I don't know.

Given the addition of the the Targumim and DSS, this would be a great addition.

Yes, it would be a major benefit of this was available in BibleWorks. I am starting to use the QST/QSM modules and the Targumim much more now, so Jastrow is becoming an increasing useful resource. The difficulty would be entering the text electronically - any suggestions? If enough people scanned/OCR'd/typed a few tens of pages each, it would be available!

Regards,

Ewan

prof_t
02-15-2005, 04:00 AM
I agree that this should be brought into the system. It's indispensible.

My main interest is Hebrew Bible, Talmud and post-Talmudic Hebrew literature, so anything that nudges the program into that universe sounds great to me.

ugotdave
02-15-2005, 09:53 AM
I would be more than happy to OCR and type some to get this out and available to us.

Michael Hanel
02-15-2005, 11:31 AM
If someone double checks w BW staff to make sure this isn't on their docket of things to do, i am sure they wouldn't mind users making things like this available. I know when I emailed Mike about something he said they had a lot of irons on the fire and it would be awhile. So if you're anxious and your hands are capable, this would be something great to work on :)

Ben Spackman
02-15-2005, 12:03 PM
Hendrickson is putting out a new edition that has finally, finally been typeset. It will be readable! http://www.hendrickson.com/html/product/38603.acad.html?category=academic

THey'd probably want to be paid for the files, though...

jakemccarty
02-24-2005, 07:01 PM
Please Bibleworks.... But give us the actual Mishnaic Hebrew texts too

mlanglois
03-04-2005, 02:33 PM
I also requested it several months ago. With DSS and targums, Jastrow would be VERY useful!
Bibleworks should have it an add-on module.
Let's hope that they will hear us and work on it...

Michael Hanel
03-04-2005, 03:25 PM
I think there are times when BW seems slower at developing some of these resources which often is frustrating to users, but overall I think their system is better. Essentially they're driven by the idea that they want to provide as much as they can in the program w/o going the route of having lots of extra modules. The modules that exist now are there not because BW wanted it that way but because there wasn't much room in bartering for licensing and they couldn't eat the costs themselves. Libronix and even Accordance are able to offer so many more modules because they cost a lot and really add a heavy burden to the users. For instance I see Accordance has the Apostolic Fathers. BibleWorks also has that and even though they are not complete w getting the morphologies done for it, it's a steal when it comes free with the base price rather than Accorance's $100 module extra fee. Or what about Josephus, again part of the program rather than $40 extra? As you can tell all of those niceties add up and suddenly the software isn't a $300 program, it's closer to $1500, which is Accordance's price tag for the Scholar's unlock CD.

So for the record, I think it's good to alert BW folks to these resources and I think they should be included. But I know they're not likely to be added until the next big release (it's a lot better marketing strategy to save all your eggs for one release rather than be throwing them out piecemeal) and I think their overall strategy has helped keep our costs down and helped keep this program competitive with additions to other programs that would end up costing users and arm and a leg. Practical and smart-economics in my mind.