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Wolf2Shepherd
03-11-2009, 03:49 PM
Ok, in Bw7 I could copy a section of text and paste it in MicroSoft Word and it would paste in Paragraph Style. In BW8 if i use the pop up copy window it will do that, but a general copy from the browser window just places a mirror image in MicroSoft Word. Can I change the settings to past in Paragraph Style instead of having a line break ofter each verse?

A little help please:)

Mark Eddy
03-11-2009, 10:42 PM
I don't remember that BW7 could do what you claim. I have always had the verses divided by a line break whenever I copied them to any word processor. So I see no change in BW8. Sorry.
Mark Eddy

Adamsen
03-12-2009, 04:06 AM
Ok, in Bw7 I could copy a section of text and paste it in MicroSoft Word and it would paste in Paragraph Style. In BW8 if i use the pop up copy window it will do that, but a general copy from the browser window just places a mirror image in MicroSoft Word. Can I change the settings to past in Paragraph Style instead of having a line break ofter each verse?

A little help please:)

If "a general copy" means that you use Ctrl-C from the Results browser window, I am not sure that it can. It is outside of what BW8 controls. But if you right-click in the Results Window, you make BW8 do the copy. You can configure this copy in the Copy Selected Text local menu: Click the "Configure Text Copy Favorites ..." option. Once configured you can right-click and choose Repeat last copy command.

Is this what you are after?

Wolf2Shepherd
03-12-2009, 10:54 AM
If "a general copy" means that you use Ctrl-C from the Results browser window, I am not sure that it can. It is outside of what BW8 controls. But if you right-click in the Results Window, you make BW8 do the copy. You can configure this copy in the Copy Selected Text local menu: Click the "Configure Text Copy Favorites ..." option. Once configured you can right-click and choose Repeat last copy command.

Is this what you are after?

No, and I can't walk you through it either. BW7 was uninstalled when BW8 was installed. But I know that I went through the options menu and tweaked the copy and paste settings. I have been using BW for 6+ years and I use it heavily for Sermon prep. Every time I coped and pasted text into my Word Doc. it would remove the line breaks and insert the passage title in Bold. I can do everything with BW8 except for removing the line breaks. BW8 does do that if you use the copy pop up, so I now it is possible, I just canít find the right menu to alter it. It might have been called word wrap, but I think it was called paragraph style.
I might have been the only one to ever use that feature in BW7 and they removed the setting :rolleyes:

I just remembered that I was also able to change the font that I exported, so that every time I pasted in Word the font matched my document and everything was formatted the way it needed to be so that I did not need to change anything. Most of my notes are posted on our church website with the audio of the sermons.

AAAAGH it gets stressful trying to get BW back to the way it needs to be.:( That leads me to another issue, why is it that every time I make changes in the option section it reverts back to default when I restart it.

I think I have issues, I might go back to BW7

Wolf2Shepherd
03-12-2009, 03:23 PM
by the way,Thanks for responding

Dewayne

Greg Ward
03-12-2009, 07:17 PM
For not retaining settings: First make sure that 'Save setup options on exit' is checked in Tools/Options/General/Flags/Shutdown Options. Second, the .INI or even your copyops.dat file may be corrupted. Back them up, delete them and restart BW. If problem continues, it wasn't there and you can restore your settings.

For extra lines in your output is that option unchecked in the appropriate Output Format Options dialog.

Since there a multitude of ways to copy out of BW, how specifically are you copying from BW and pasting into MS Word version xyz?

alcantley
03-15-2009, 12:22 PM
I, too, used to copy browse window verses in BW7 and pasted into other applications as wrapped text (paragraph style). I am unable to do this in BW8; it always retains line breaks between verses. Mildly frustrating :).

Blessings,
Al Cantley

Greg Ward
03-15-2009, 10:17 PM
Though I normally use the Popup Copy Window, I did experiment with the Browse Window ctrl-c exporting.
I have an XP system w/ BW7 and MSWord 2003. With the Export Option Flags for "Export Reference Stringe when Exporting Browse Text" and "Remove CRLFs when exporting Browse text" selected, the selected Browse window verses and Ctrl-C does export the reference and the verse texts as a single paragraph to MSWord.

In Vista w/ BW8 and MSWord 2007, the Export Options Flag "Remove CRLFs when exporting Browse text" does not seem to have an impact whether selected or unselected. Perhaps this was a slip in the transition to the BW8 Output Format Options. I'd suggest you write to service@bibleworks.com and describe the issue. Perhaps that "Remove CRLFs when exporting Browse text" should be removed from Option Flags and placed in the Output Format Options for Selected Browse Text.

hbercovici
03-23-2009, 06:49 PM
I too am frustrated with being unable to cut and paste paragraph style. I have two or three occasions each week to use this feature, and while I deploy Word's search & replace feature to reformat the text (too lazy to write a Word macro), I have been hoping for a solution to this problem & have written the service folks with the same question.

Greg Ward
03-23-2009, 11:13 PM
Isn't the idea with cut and paste, that what you cut is what you paste? Unless I use a 'paste special', most of the time I assume that what I cut will be pasted similarly. What you seem to be demanding is a "highlight and copy" that does not literally copy, but changes the formatting of the copy? I understand this may have been a convenient option in previous BW versions. But if I highlighted several paragraphs is one Word document, copied, and pasted them into another, I wouldn't expect them to be pasted as one paragraph.

So, really, should BW continue to support a bastardized copy and paste. You'll have to ask them.

So, you have two options,
--use another copy method that is supposed to copy a range of text, such as the Popup Copy Window or the Selected Browse Text copy (accessible via right-click in the Browse Window) See Help ch 50
--request BW to make functional the Tools/Option/Flags/Export Options/Remove CR/LFs when exporting Browse Text. I agree that if this worked as described, I think you could get what you want. It doesn't seem to work (see my post above). But I don't use that method. So I'll leave it for you to talk to service@bibleworks.com. I'm guessing that the programmers may choose to send everything to the previous export option.

MGVH
03-24-2009, 09:33 AM
I understand that you want to copy text in paragraph style, but highlighting text in the Browse window and then using copy/paste returns the text with separate verses. There is a another way to accomplish your goal, but it involves (as Greg Ward noted) using the Popup Copy window. (I know that this Popup Copy window has caused some consternation in BW8, but it really is a remarkably powerful and adaptable tool.)
HERE (http://screencast.com/t/rt13suYjVXe) is a 1'39" video showing you the steps to take to configure it properly and get text copied in paragraph format.
I forgot to mention in the video that with the Popup Copy window open, click on the version button (just to the left of the blank where you will enter your verse range) and choose whatever version you want.
BTW, this is also very helpful if you want to copy non-contiguous verses. Simply use a semicolon to separate passages and use the book name every time. (E.g., John 1.1-5; John 3.14-16; Phil 1.20-22)

SCSaunders
03-24-2009, 10:32 AM
... (I know that this Popup Copy window has caused some consternation in BW8, but it really is a remarkably powerful and adaptable tool.)I totally agree.

HERE (http://screencast.com/t/rt13suYjVXe) is a 1'39" video showing you the steps to take to configure it properly and get text copied in paragraph format.Excellent! Thanks MGVH. I learned some cool stuff. I'm the better for it.

IMO - Everyone needs to check out this video. I think 99.9% of us will learn something. The other .1% are like Mark and you already know it (Like Michael Hannel and a few others).

Adelphos
03-24-2009, 02:24 PM
After seeing Glenn's and Mark's explanations, I am impressed with the new capabilities in BW8... which is why I just ordered.

Quick question, however... Nowhere was I asked to provide my codes for my unlock modules. I did give my BW7 registration number, so I'm hoping that will cover it. If not, someone please let me know what else I need to do.

SCSaunders
03-24-2009, 03:13 PM
... BW8... which is why I just ordered.Congrats.


Quick question, however... Nowhere was I asked to provide my codes for my unlock modules. I did give my BW7 registration number, so I'm hoping that will cover it. If not, someone please let me know what else I need to do.Scott, you'll probably get an email with your unlock codes just prior to BW mailing your actual order.

If not, all you'll need to do is email them a second time after you've registered BW8.

Folks on the forum have had either one or the other experience. I think MGVH and Ken N. (Can't spell Neighhoff from memory. Sorry :() got theirs no problemo. I and many others did the 2nd email thingy.

By waiting until now to place your order, you'll probably receive it much faster than during the initial onslaught.

JM2Cents

Adelphos
03-24-2009, 03:26 PM
Scott, you'll probably get an email with your unlock codes just prior to BW mailing your actual order.

Well, I'll keep checking my email box all day then, because since I ordered a couple of hours ago, my upgrade should be here in tomorrow's mail, right? :eek:

David Kummerow
03-25-2009, 12:49 AM
Well, I'll keep checking my email box all day then, because since I ordered a couple of hours ago, my upgrade should be here in tomorrow's mail, right? :eek:
I wouldn't be taking the time to check too frequently -- although I admit that there is something of a compulsion to do so!

My BW 8 arrived yesterday but unfortunately minus module unlock codes. Version 7 codes for modules were supplied along with the program code itself with the order. I emailed support 24 hours ago about the issue but haven't heard back yet. Which is why I'm saying don't expect version 8 unlock codes too speedily -- this seems to be the exception rather than the rule.

I'm happy to wait -- my BW 7 is still working great! It's just that an exceedingly generous person has provided the means for me to upgrade. It is a great thing to experience God's provision and care through his people.

Regards,
David.

Ken Neighoff
03-25-2009, 08:51 AM
SC wrote: (Can't spell Neighhoff from memory. Sorry :()

Not bad from memory, you put one too many 'h's' in the last name.

Yes, I received an email givig me the new unlock codes one day and the next day, received the email telling me BW8 shipped.

There were posts in the past that dealt with the unlock codes, that if you ordered BDAG and HALOT before BW7, the BW computer system was not able to always retrieve those past codes and had to generate new ones. This caused a delay for some people.

Adelphos, may you time in the Word with BW8 be beneficial and rewarding.

Adelphos
03-25-2009, 11:52 AM
Just to be clear -- NOWHERE in the ordering process was I asked to supply my unlock codes. Should this have been done? If so (and since I didn't), should I email my unlock codes to Customer Support?

Michael Hanel
03-25-2009, 12:19 PM
Just to be clear -- NOWHERE in the ordering process was I asked to supply my unlock codes. Should this have been done? If so (and since I didn't), should I email my unlock codes to Customer Support?

Nope. As long as you've registered BibleWorks, they have a record of your purchases. The snag had been that some of those records were not immediately grabbed by their computers if they had been purchased a long time ago. I assume that's been worked out, but if not you can email them those later on in the process, but as it is, nothing else should be necessary.

Adelphos
03-25-2009, 12:27 PM
Nope. As long as you've registered BibleWorks, they have a record of your purchases.

Okay, thanks.

After reading these posts and seeing the examples and screenshots provided by yourself, Glenn, and Mark, it occured to me what the main problem with BW8 is... well, okay, it's not really a problem, but rather a luxury... and here it is... there are too many options!

There are ssssoooooo many options that you need a billet just to sort them all out.

David Kummerow
03-25-2009, 04:20 PM
There were posts in the past that dealt with the unlock codes, that if you ordered BDAG and HALOT before BW7, the BW computer system was not able to always retrieve those past codes and had to generate new ones.
Yes, that's would fit my case. I purchased extra unlock codes with BW 5 and 6.

In any case, overnight I received new unlock codes by email, so it's all sorted for me.

Thank you BW! Now I can install in a virtual machine for initial testing...

Regards,
David.

SCSaunders
03-26-2009, 07:58 AM
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Not bad from memory, you put one too many 'h's' in the last name. ....Doh! 123456789

Adelphos
03-26-2009, 05:45 PM
The ordering appears to be working seamlessly now. I just got all my unlock codes via email, so I'll be looking for the package to arrive any day now.

After reading all the posts and examining all the examples given on the new capabilities of BW8, it is clear that one of the many evidences of how conscientious the BW team is of the users needs is the volume of options they have made available for configuring the program. I hate it when programmers assume that you will always want the program to work a certain way and therefore don't give you (m)any options. BW excels in this and goes overboard to make the program as configurable as possible.

David Kummerow
03-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Glad to hear that you got your codes so quick!

Regards,
David.

Adelphos
03-27-2009, 06:13 PM
Glad to hear that you got your codes so quick!

Thanks, but I don't have anything to plug them into yet. Today's mail was lacking a DVD from BibleWorks. Not that I'm in a hurry, but I wonder if BW will ever switch to downloads instead of CD's/DVD's? Unless there's some sort of security issue, I think that is the inevitable way to go.