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jdarlack
06-27-2004, 09:19 AM
Hello all,

I am working on putting together a tool where I would like to have Greek and Hebrew displayed in parallel on screen in html. Does anyone know of an online Bible program/website that would allow someone to link their website to the appropriate range of verses from a particular biblical text?

For instance if I wanted to display the LXX and Heb of Gen 1:1 I could either copy and paste the text from a public domain site, but that would be "cumbersome". Are there any sites out there that would allow you to place code on your webpage that would simply bring up the text from another site? (Similar to the way that BibleWorks synopsis (sdf) files work, where one can simply type Gen 1:1 | Joh 1:1 to display the prologues of Genesis and John in parallel.

Any ideas?

tomc
06-28-2004, 09:22 PM
Hi,

I think you are looking for an RSS feed from another site. I don't know that I've seen that, at least with the greek or hebrew text. It might take a while to find one searching the web if it's out there.

My website can display the NA26, but we have compiled it into a database, so the website doesn't exist statically, it is only built when someone requests those particular verses.

If you use a programming language like ASP, ASP.NET, or PHP you can put code within your HTML code that will read the particular verses that you want from a database. You can use Microsoft SQL Server (expensive), MS Access, or MySQL (free).

Let me know if you have any questions.

jdarlack
06-29-2004, 09:47 AM
Hi Tom, thanks for the reply. Here is where I wish I had followed my father's advice and became a programmer! (Of course then I may not have followed God's call to Bible college & seminary, met my wife, etc...) I know what I would like to do, but I am just not sure how to do it. And I know nothing of the alphabet soup you mentioned below, though I am a little familiar with HTML.

(By the way, I really like your site. It is both attractive and useful. I love the pop-ups and the parsings on the UBS! How did you do that? Excellent job!)

I used your parallel tool just now and I think that a similar interface would work extremely well with the tool I am developing. (Right now I am entering the text, etc.) Do you know of any tutorial(s) that would be helpful in developing such a site as yours? Do you have any plans of implementing Hebrew text into your parallel Bible tool? If so, where would you get the text?

Your site gives me some definite ideas. If only I could learn the code overnight! :rolleyes:

~Jim

tomc
06-29-2004, 03:42 PM
Jim-

These sites have been most useful to me:
http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/
http://www.asp.net
http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/

The learning curve is a little steep for ASP.NET. It uses (most commonly) the programming lanuages C# or Visual Basic.NET.

If you look on the "4guys" site, it has a lot of stuff on ASP 3.0. It's an older technology but uses more HTML and vbscript (visual basic script) instead of the full-fledged programming languages.

My friend that does the site with me recently re-wrote our whole site. I think the pop-ups he wrote from scratch. We used to use a javascript program called Overlib, here is the link: http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/

We do have plans to get the Hebrew on there but not anytime soon. Not sure where we will get the text yet. The other problem is that our other site www.theologyforums.com (http://www.theologyforums.com), recently got taken out by a hacker, so that is taking up some time.

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I guess I would recommend learning ASP 3.0 first. You should be able to do it with 2 books and that website. I recommend the books by Wrox publishers, one is called "Programming ASP databases", and the other is "Beginning Active Server Pages 3.0".

tomc
06-29-2004, 03:47 PM
Actually you might want to look at XML too. You would have the whole bible in a single text file and you could read it in as you call a specific verse. That is basically what an RSS feed from another site would give to you. You could avoid learning databases that way.

It will be slower that way, but depending on how many people will be using the website you might be OK.

http://www.xml.com/ has a lot of general definitions to give you an idea.

I would bet that the Bibleworks staff might be willing to give the option to export to XML.

Feel free to ask more questions if you need to...