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Dogfish Jones
05-14-2004, 09:07 PM
Two questions relating to Pocket PCs, as I am hoping to purchase one with some of my graduation money (shameless bragging plug: I graduate seminary on Friday! WooHoo!)

1) Those of you who have pocket PCs, what do you use and why? I'm heavily leaning toward a Dell Axim X3i right now. Thoughts, comments, recommendations?

2) Since Bibleworks doesn't have a "lite" version for palms or pocket PCs, what (preferably free) bible software do you recommend for them?

Thanks much!

Tom Whittemore
05-14-2004, 10:18 PM
Dear Brother:

Try "http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/index.html". And I use the HP ipaq 5555 with a 512 Mb memory expansion.
Agape Love, always.

Yours, in His Hily Name,
Tom W.

kpurcell
05-15-2004, 11:20 AM
I have had a few different PPCs and my personal favorite is my current. I have an IPAQ 4155. It is small like a Palm, but powerful like a PocketPC. I has integrated WIFI and Bluetooth and plenty of power and space as well as a slot for a SD card that is compatible with things like cameras and GPS systems.

As for Bible I have tried Laridian's Pocket Bible which has the most available components of note (NIV and NASB, etc) but is slower than some of the others. Another commercial bible is the PDA version of QuickVerse. I do not have as much experience with it, only tried the trial version. My two favorites are the free olive tree program and e-sword has a Pocket PC version as well as a vibrant support community that is creating tools to convert your own commercial electronic bibles to e-sword and hopefully very soon PocketPC version.

And another option is to cut and paste your favorite bible into Word and the use the free ReaderWorks plugin to convert it to a .LIT file that is readable on MS Reader and Pocket Reader.

One final recommendation. Get an avantgo account going. You can download web pages to your device and take them with you even when out of reach of your network or not connected to the Internet.

Hope this helps. Feel free to email me with other questions.

Tyrone Brumwell
06-11-2004, 01:55 PM
Personally, I think I would wait before purchasing one.

Recently in the news I read about a new hard drive that has been created specifically for use with hand-helds and cellular phones. This hard drive, the size and width of a quarter, holds 40 gigs. The article said that the hard drive will be ready for mass production by the end of the year. With new products comming out around 2005-2006 (?).

I would hate to see anyone spending money on something that will, in 2 years, be incredibly obslete.

But if you have the money now and wish to spend it....go for it.


TS Brumwell

Dogfish Jones
06-13-2004, 11:40 PM
any technological product is obsolete within 6 months these days, no matter what "latest innovation" you wait for.

I'm aware that that is part of the risk, but its the way the game is played these days.

bcollins
06-14-2004, 09:01 AM
There is a device that is supposed to come out this fall that runs Windows XP in full (and thus BibleWorks) on a handheld sized device.
The idea is to dock it and use it like a full desktop or take it and go with it like a PocketPC.
The HD on this device is 20GB.
You can check it out at www.oqo.com

Joshua Luna
06-16-2004, 12:26 AM
Hello,

The below may not help, but is some information on Palm Bible software.

I recently had a similar question... I was given a color Palm IIIc (a 3+ year old product, can be bought for $40-$60 on Ebay) and was looking for some Bible software for it. A BW user had noted PalmBible+ and am EXTREMELY pleased with it.

PalmBible+ is free and it has numerous translations and interlinear versions available. The program allows searches (English, Hebrew, and Greek), book marks, notes, etc... and also allows split screen. This allows me to put the Hebrew/Greek on the top of the screen and an English translation below.

The program designers recently finished adding Hebrew vowel points, so currently there is the Hebrew text with vowels (with SEC numbers encoded) and Greek text with accents (with SEC numbers encoded). This is great because this allowed me to setup BDB/Thayers (for FREE!) wit h PalmBible+... so anytime I do not know a word I just need to display the SEC numbers and double tap and it pulls up the Lexicon info. I am hoping they get a parsed text someday also...

There is also a nifty Bible reading planner software that works with Bible+; my wife and I are using that for planning our daily family and individual devotionals.

This is great software for the Palm platform, and everything is FREE.

I also am using MiniFlash--which is a great English/Hebrew/Greek flashcard program. It has vocab databases for the grammars I have used (or will use) in the Basics of Biblical X series, and also allows you to use DBs from FoundationStone. MiniFlash is $19.

So, for $19 I got a pretty good deal I think :)

Unibible (Palm) and Oaktree (Palm and PocketPC) are both worth a look also.

Joshua

tomc
06-16-2004, 09:37 PM
I highly recommend Bible With You by Gmpsoft (www.gmpsoft.com).

It is definitely the fastest one around. They have the Greek new Testament available and will have the Hebrew eventually.

As far as PDA's, I like the Sony's (I have TG50), but they are discontinuing the PDA's.

jdarlack
07-04-2004, 09:40 PM
Ok, So I've bought a Tungsten T3, and I am loving PalmBible+!

Looking at the PalmBible+ website, I have found a couple of places that mention converting BW files for (personal) PalmBible+ use, being careful to observe copyrights, etc. Has anyone on the forum had any luck with this. I have not been intiated into the world of "java runtime environments" etc.

See the PalmBible site: http://palmbibleplus.sourceforge.net/createbible.htm.

~Jim

Dunamistheou
09-18-2004, 09:25 PM
Hey,
I have a Dell Axim x3i myself and I like it very much :) however, I just bought a laptop so I'm trading my pocketPC for him to build me a desktop :D

kpurcell
09-19-2004, 10:08 AM
Looking at the PalmBible+ website, I have found a couple of places that mention converting BW files for (personal) PalmBible+ use, being careful to observe copyrights, etc. Has anyone on the forum had any luck with this. I have not been intiated into the world of "java runtime environments" etc.http://palmbibleplus.sourceforge.net/createbible.htm.

~Jim

Yes I have done this. I just recently sold my PPC on Ebay and bought a Palmone Treo 600 smart phone. I love PalmBible. It is far superior to anything available on PocketPC (I've tried them all).

I have converted NASB, NIV, NKJV, NLT and the HolamCSB that I imported into Bibleworks from Bible Navigator. I love it. Once you get the file out of BW it is not that hard. Email me off list and I will help you with this process.

kapblp@bellsouth.net

wezlo
09-30-2004, 10:32 AM
I have an iPAQ 2215 and a Palm Tungsten E. I love them both, but am currently using the iPAQ.
I use the Olive Tree bible reader, and have purchased the NET bible and the gramcord NA27 w/tagging (and ubs dictionary). I also have the God's Word Translation (free download), and you get get many other Bibles for a free download. The Olive tree reader is fast and easy to use, I highly recommend it!

Of course, you COULD drop $1,5000 for an OQO "palm-top" and just run Bibleworks (the OQO runs windows XP, though I'd probably wipe it and put linux on it...)

Dogfish Jones
10-05-2004, 05:29 PM
For those interested, both BibleReader and Pocket E-Sword have been updated. They both perform much more smoothly and quickly now, and have additional features.

Of particular interest to me was that BibleReader can now handle 2003SE's landscape mode. Pocket E-Sword still does not.

Anyway, both updates make both programs much more user-friendly. I'm still undecided which one I like better, though.

jschmitz
10-07-2004, 02:07 AM
Just a side note: the OQO was mentioned earlier, and it would be able to run a full version of bibleworks. The Flipstart is a similar device ("handheld desktop") that combines portability with functionality, and has a 40GB hard drive instead of OQO's 20GB. No idea on the cost ($$$), but it could be worth a short wait (end of 2004) I'm not trying to sell it, but there's more info at www.flipstartpc.com (http://www.flipstartpc.com/)