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clent12
10-13-2006, 12:49 PM
I was just playing with the new CrossOver for Mac Beta (from CodeWeavers) and trying to get BW6 to run. I'm guessing there aren't many out there who have tried this yet, but would be interested in your experience. So far, I haven't been able to get it to work, but perhaps someone more experienced with Wine could offer some suggestions. The beta trial runs for 60 days and is free. I thought I would go this route first before trying Parallels or BootCamp, esp. because you don't have to pay for Windows!

Any comments?

Chris Lent

MarkAllison
10-13-2006, 01:18 PM
Chris,

I haven't tried CrossOver, but I use Parallels every day with BibleWorks and Logos, and it works great. It's amazingly fast. I'll be bringing my MacBook Pro to the seminar in Atlanta if anyone wants to check it out.

Mark Allison

clent12
10-13-2006, 01:28 PM
Thanks Mark. A few people have commented on how well Parallels has worked, so I may go that route fairly soon. Was setup and install easy?

Chris

MarkAllison
10-13-2006, 02:16 PM
Parallels was a breeze to set up. Everything just works. There are a couple other Windows apps that I like to use, and this allows me to run them at full speed, alongside my Mac apps.

clent12
10-13-2006, 03:32 PM
OK, I got BW6 to install on CrossOver Mac 6.0 Beta. I don't know how smooth it is to use yet, but I'll report back so we can compare to Parallels and BootCamp. If you want to try, here you go.

IMPORTANT: Right now I have everything running in a Windows 98 bottle. It is important that EVERYTHING goes into this bottle. Don't create a new bottle for BW.

DIRECTORY: CrossOver's systems files for a Windows 98 bottle are found here: "user"/library/application support/crossover/bottles/win98/drive_c

1) When you first install CrossOver, you will need to insert you OSX install CD for an important file. Do not skip this step.

2) Use the CrossOver menu to install these "Supported Applications." (A) Windows OLE Components 98, (B) Internet Explorer 6 [choose "typcial" install option], (C) CrossOver HTML Engine, (D) MS Word 97 [optional]

3) Download and install (within CrossOver's menu) these "Unsupported Software" files. (A) Microsoft Data Access Components [from http://www.microsoft.com/data/download_260rtm.htm], (B) Windows Installer 1.1 Redistributable for Win 95 and 98 [from Microsoft site].

4) Find a copy of mfc42.dll online, download it, and move it into your system32 folder following the directory map above.

5) Copy any desired fonts into ~ bottles/win98/drive_c/windows/fonts

6) Finally, insert BW6 CD, and make sure (again using the CrossOver Menu) that you install it into the same Win98 bottle. Choose a full install if you can, and include modules like BDAG, HALOT, etc., when given the option.

Like I said, I have it up and running, though I am still trying to work with some of the fonts and pop-ups.

Chris

deut3221
10-13-2006, 05:05 PM
I spent all of one Friday evening trying to install BW7 on the latest CrossOver beta.

I followed all of Chris's steps in the previous post (you can find a similar explanation in the CrossOver for Mac FAQ).

I got BS7 installed, BUT whenever I tried the initial start-up, the registration dialogue box would pop up; then, regardless of which option that I selected, the program would crash, boom, end of story.

I should note the following:
1) no toolbar showed up
2) the fonts were not as pleasing as a Windows install
3) the colors were gone (brownish grey)

So, it's back to BW7 on Parallels.

Cheers,
-steve

clent12
10-13-2006, 08:43 PM
Steve,
Thanks for the post. I've read about others having problems with the toolbar in other versions of CrossOver with BW7. And, after playing with it for the afternoon, I agree. The fonts look kind of strange and colors don't show up that well. Also, CrossOver seems to have some issues with ctrl-click for right mouse options. I'll probably go out and get Parallels next week. Have you been happy with it?

Chris

MarkAllison
10-14-2006, 08:47 AM
I just wanted to add that I not only use BibleWorks with Parallels, but Logos, WordSearch, PC Study Bible, Office 2003, InDesign, Dreamweaver and use Active Sync to sync my Pocket PC with Windows Mobile 5. They all work flawlessly and even more quickly than a couple of Pentium 4's I use at work. If you've ever used Virtual PC, you're probably worried about speed issues. Don't be. Speed is absolutely not a problem with Parallels, unless you want to run games with 3D graphics. If that's the case, you probably want to use Boot Camp.

Mark Allison

deut3221
10-14-2006, 02:18 PM
Steve,
I'll probably go out and get Parallels next week. Have you been happy with it?

Parallels works great; the latest release seems to overcome most issues.

The only drawback that I've seen is that you have to run Windows in order to install BW. But, if you can put up with Windows, everything else is as expected.

cheers,
-steve.

clent12
10-14-2006, 03:46 PM
Great, thanks. About how much disk space does Parallels with Windows take? I'm happy to see that Parallels offers the compression software as well.

Chris

deut3221
10-14-2006, 04:12 PM
I set up a fixed hard disk w/ 15 GB, so I could do a full BW install. If you don't want maps and videos, you can get by a lot, lot less.

cozart
10-17-2006, 04:49 PM
i got BW 6 to work on CrossOver, but did not like the way it ran at all. when i resized the windows, it did not automatically redraw everything. i had to minimize and then maximize for it to look right. also, a lot of the fonts were messed up with text overlapping and such.

too bad, i was really hoping to be able to load BW more quickly than having to wait for windows to load and then open BW after that (i'm currently using it on Parallels). hopefully someday there will be a universal binary edition of BW. :)

deut3221
10-18-2006, 12:49 PM
Hopefully someday there will be a universal binary edition of BW. :)


I'll second that hope! I too wish for a universal binary edition of BW.

It's shocking how many Mac users are using BW with Parallels. There certainly is a strong interest in the Mac community for a native product. We all can keep hoping and encouraging the BW team to think good thoughts about the Mac :)

-steve

Dogfish Jones
10-18-2006, 02:17 PM
I'm using BW7 with Parallels as well. I made "the switch" last month. Overall, I'm really impressed with the functionality. And, I really like not having to spend hundreds of dollars to rebuilt my software library for the Mac.

However, I have noticed that the computer is running much hotter when I run Parallels. This has been apparent since the Parallels update released last week (build 1940). Has anyone else noticed the same thing?

Dogfish Jones
10-18-2006, 03:08 PM
A followup post.. I'm not seeing the speed results that others seem to be experiencing. So, I'm wondering how folks have Parallels set up.

I'm running a Macbook Pro, 2.16ghz Core Duo, 1gig RAM, 120 gig HD.
I set Parallels up with 20 gig HD and 256mb RAM. I initially had it at 512mb RAM, but then OSX was choppy.

As I mentioned, the system is running really hot when Parallels is up (~113-121 degrees F). And, both XP and OSX are a bit choppy, especially when switching back and forth.

Anyone have any thoughts?

MarkAllison
10-18-2006, 04:19 PM
David,

I have basically the same setup you have, but my MacBook Pro has 2gb of ram. Don't know if that's the different, but I've never experienced anything but fast performance with either OSX or XP. I also leave Parallels on all the time and rarely boot the computer. If you need to upgrade the ram, you might try www.ramseeker.com. They'll list the best prices for your particular model. I just checked and you can purchase 1gb of ram (if you need only one stick) for $130.

By the way, I have Parallels set up with the normal defaults, and ram is set to 620mb.

Mark

hudsonhauck
03-21-2007, 08:32 AM
Greetings!

I am thinking about moving to a Mac for my next laptop, and CrossOver seems to be by far the coolest and most fluid solution. But, it seems there are kinks that some people report.

If you own CrossOver, please vote here (http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=155;run=1) on their website for them to support this app!

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=155