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MBushell
03-11-2006, 11:32 AM
Update: BibleWorks Executable (7.012v)
Date: 03/11/06 at 11:27:59

This patch contains the latest BibleWorks 7.0 program executable.
With this update the Greek Polytonic Keyboard shipped with Windows XP should now work in the BibleWorks editor. The fix affects all dead key entry using Unicode fonts.

This is a PREVIEW version intended for TESTING purposes. To access the update you must enter the word "preview" (no quotes) in the Updater Access Code Window, accessed from the Options Menu. If you are not comfortable running a preview version you can wait until the changes are tested and a non-preview version is posted. This will usually not take more than a day or two.

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Thanks!

MGVH
03-13-2006, 12:51 PM
I installed version V, but I still have the same problems. Accents and breathing marks are being rendered as question marks.

Michael Hanel
03-13-2006, 05:32 PM
Do you have the normal Greek Polytonic KB installed like it says from here (http://www.biblicalgreek.org/links/fonts/keyboard.html)? I know the default windows map was diff than I'm used to using Antioch, but I thought everything seemed to work ok when I used that one.

MGVH
03-13-2006, 08:00 PM
Yes, I had installed the Greek Polytonic, but that didn't work. (I even remembered to type the accent before the vowel...)
My preferred keyboard is a version of the Logos one (http://www.logos.com/Beta/Keyboards) that I modified myself, but that didn't work either.
My modified version matches a Keyman layout I formerly used, and for now, I am using Keyman when I want Greek in BW7 editor.

Trajan
03-14-2006, 09:33 AM
Yes, I had installed the Greek Polytonic, but that didn't work. (I even remembered to type the accent before the vowel...)
My preferred keyboard is a version of the Logos one (http://www.logos.com/Beta/Keyboards) that I modified myself, but that didn't work either.
My modified version matches a Keyman layout I formerly used, and for now, I am using Keyman when I want Greek in BW7 editor.

I also use the Logos Keyboard, and the fix does not correct the question marks inserted when typing breathings.

The Logos keyboard is (IMO) vastly superior to other Greek (and Hebrew) inputs, since you can intuitively add breathings and accents separately. Now that BW has Unicode support (which is GREAT!!) the two work together even better. It would be nice if the BW editor would work with it as well.

briantipton
03-15-2006, 01:52 PM
It doesn't work for me, either. I noticed, though, that when I type in Hebrew, which does work, the font selection pull down jumps to Ezra SIL. However, when I selected Unicode Greek, the font selection drop down is blank. Is this part of the problem?

**UPDATE**

I fixed the font selection problem through the file-properties context menu, but still cannot get accents to work. No help.

MBushell
03-15-2006, 07:45 PM
Remember that you have to select both the Polytonic Keyboard and a Unicode Greek font. I tested it with Arial Unicode MS. It seems to work fine. What do the 5th and 6th items on the Editor status bar say? They should have the current font and current keyboard. They should say "Arial Unicode MS" and " Polytonic Greek" or some such thing.

Also, Microsoft has a free utility for creating your own keyboards. Do a Google on "Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator". You can create from scratch or modify any keyboard already on the system.

MGVH
03-15-2006, 10:18 PM
Hi, Mike,
I'm using 7.0.13a now.
I've tried with both the standard Windows Greek Polytonic and with a keyboard that I've set up for myself using MS Keybd Layout Creator.
Everything works fine in MSWord.
I can confirm that I am using a Unicode font (usually Cardo, but I also tried w/ Arial Unicode MS) and am using the Greek keyboard, but I am still getting question marks every time I try to enter breathing or accents.
This is something to figure out at some point, but I don't know that it needs to be a priority right now. For now, I am just using Keyman, and that works fine.

MBushell
03-16-2006, 12:12 AM
Mark,
Can you send me your INI file? Also, what version of Internet Exporer do you have?
Thanks,
Mike

briantipton
03-21-2006, 12:26 PM
Has there been any progress in resolving the Greek Unicode issue under XP?

Anxious.

MGVH
09-05-2006, 01:10 PM
I'm refreshing this thread just to keep the issue on the back burner...
I have completely converted to Unicode, but I still cannot make accents, breathing marks, or iota subscripts work in BW7 editor. (For now, I have been working in WordPad or MSWord and cutting/pasting into BW7.0.)

MBushell
09-07-2006, 08:18 PM
Hi Brian,

It works fine for me but I had to use the BW font change button to select the Greek, rather than the Windows Language Bar. I made a modification so that when the language bar is used to change the labguage, BW will activate the right keyboard. I just posted a new exe (no version number change though). Le me know if this helps.

Mike

briantipton
09-20-2006, 10:38 AM
Hi Brian,

It works fine for me but I had to use the BW font change button to select the Greek, rather than the Windows Language Bar. I made a modification so that when the language bar is used to change the labguage, BW will activate the right keyboard. I just posted a new exe (no version number change though). Le me know if this helps.

Mike
I finally got around to testing it again. I wanted to make sure I was consistent in checking it out.

Sorry, but it still does not work. I have used several different Greek fonts and serveral different keyboards. The diacritical marks still display as '?' after the letter. Is there anything I can do offline to help you with this. I am completely willing to help out in whatever way I can, '.ini' files, whatever...

Thanks for a great program.

Trajan
09-20-2006, 11:12 AM
I finally got around to testing it again. I wanted to make sure I was consistent in checking it out.

Sorry, but it still does not work. I have used several different Greek fonts and serveral different keyboards. The diacritical marks still display as '?' after the letter. Is there anything I can do offline to help you with this. I am completely willing to help out in whatever way I can, '.ini' files, whatever...

Thanks for a great program.

Does not work for me either. I have tried the language bar, BW butrtons, BW dropdown font box, still the "?" character instead of markings.